Formerly Sane said:

Just so the Browns fans don't use the number 13 as their latest "bad luck" excuse; it's been a lot longer than 13 years! It's just 13 years with the new Browns.

Yes, that is correct. The funny thing is that it started with the hiring of Bill Belichick.

The great and powerful Evil Emperor. He wasn't so great and powerful here. 4 of his 5 years here were losing seasons. Maybe he got better. Maybe he just got Tom Brady.

Interesting to see how he does without TB. Though, I suspect that the two of them should/could/would retire together when that time comes around.

@gafreleets said:

this "theory" they have of Steeler fans jumping ship after 13yrs of losing may be true...........

fortunately, for every team in the NFL it seems except the stains, there is something called "parity". that means when a team sucks, they are given EVERY opportunity to change their fortunes by way of better draft picks, easier schedule, etc....

so it is LITERALLY statistically impossible to suck as long and as hard as the stains have managed to suck since being given your team back.

it's actually quite amazing seeing as how (like that wonderful stain fan stated with his "factory of sadness" video) it's statistically harder to blow for as long as the clowns have than it would be for them to accidently do well.

have a fun season cleveland. lol.

It is called poor ownership and poor management. The Browns have been saddled with poor ownership and management. Who knows that better than we do? We don't need a dumbass like you to tell us that.

The Steelers have been blessed with good ownership and management. Good for you for having a simple stroke of luck which you had nothing to do with.

If you are truly a Pittsburgh fan you certainly should know the deal....after all, you have been saddled with the worst ownership/management perhaps in professional sports history with the Pirates.

But yinzer rats jumped off that ship long ago. The fact that they have showed a little life here after 20 years shows things can change.

You had nothing to do with either the good or the bad.

The Indians are now saddled with loser ownership.

However, hopefully, within about a month, the Browns will be shed of their loser ownership.

Formerly Sane said:

This fallacy around Browns fans being "loyal" is somewhere between a joke and a crutch. Do Browns fans love their team?....sure! Does this love for a team who has been garbage for the vast majority of the last 50 years make those fans special? Ummmmmmm.......no! Browns fans have every right to love the Browns but thinking that makes them special is hooey!

At some point, loyalty to a team who has demonstrated no loyalty to the fans becomes stupidity. So to brag about that loyalty is foolish.

A man that does not believe in loyalty is beyond foolish....he is a man of little or no character.

Perhaps we are foolish in our loyalty to our team.

Like I said, three years of losing would cause you and many of your ilk to show your low character.

We, on the other hand, will continue to be foolish....and loyal.

Formerly Sane said:

This fallacy around Browns fans being "loyal" is somewhere between a joke and a crutch. Do Browns fans love their team?....sure! Does this love for a team who has been garbage for the vast majority of the last 50 years make those fans special? Ummmmmmm.......no! Browns fans have every right to love the Browns but thinking that makes them special is hooey!

At some point, loyalty to a team who has demonstrated no loyalty to the fans becomes stupidity. So to brag about that loyalty is foolish.

this "theory" they have of Steeler fans jumping ship after 13yrs of losing may be true...........

fortunately, for every team in the NFL it seems except the stains, there is something called "parity". that means when a team sucks, they are given EVERY opportunity to change their fortunes by way of better draft picks, easier schedule, etc....

so it is LITERALLY statistically impossible to suck as long and as hard as the stains have managed to suck since being given your team back.

it's actually quite amazing seeing as how (like that wonderful stain fan stated with his "factory of sadness" video) it's statistically harder to blow for as long as the clowns have than it would be for them to accidently do well.

have a fun season cleveland. lol.

@gafreleets said:

no no, hypocrit.

i've had to listen to your garbage about how stain fans are better than Steeler fans because of how loyal they are.

1 series in and "fuck them, i'm done with them", huh?

now THAT is loyalty.

Browns fans ARE more loyal.

Even if this guy was truthful...and I doubt he is, he is just saying out of frustration...he has lasted 13 years....which is at least a decade longer than any Steeler fan would last.

@slimdawg said:

The refs just castrated us! I dont know how everybody else seen it, but it sure as shit looked like Gresham's right foot was on the line on that play. That punt return came back to bite us in the ass in the end.

No our effen defense sucked. How many times did they have a chance to stop Cincy on 3rd down and couldn't? Then they jump off sides on 3rd and short. The defense just sucked all day! A complete turnaround from last week. Another effen loss, no surprise there!

@dawg08 said:

Time is ticking and we are down by 14 pts and we are taking are good ole time getting the plays off. Just keep running the ball up the middle that will get us 14pts quick, sheesh!

This team could score 100 pts today and still lose! Defense sucked today! Talk about a total turn around.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Alright you little bitch you can talk shit about me and you can talk shit about the browns but when you talk shit about my child were going to have a real big problem. Let's meet in person to discuss this.

i didn't talk shit about your kid. i talked shit on your ability to father a child, since you obviously have no balls, and assumed it must be your neighbor's child. hey, if it's your brother's then my bad for assuming.

and being an internet toughguy is about as pathetic as it gets.

Formerly Sane said:

WOW! You have kids? Now that is sad!

Let's meet in person to discuss what is sad you gutless yellow internet troll. I offer you the chance to back up your big words.

@gafreleets said:

know what i think is sad?

a self proclaimed "die-hard" browns fan giving up on his team after the 1st series of the 1st qtr a division and state rivalry.

while it's nice you're actually gonna spend time with your neighbor's kid, just don't give him any lessons on loyalty.

NOW OFF OF THE BANDWAGON!!!

Alright you little bitch you can talk shit about me and you can talk shit about the browns but when you talk shit about my child were going to have a real big problem. Let's meet in person to discuss this.

@harry-buffalo said:

Refs are shitting their pants this game. Shurmer has to call them on letting the clock run after running out of bounds. Both Shurmer and Lewis should have told them in the first quarter that you stop running the clock on incomplete passes. Did anyone see 30 secs run off the clock after Green's dropped pass. Stupid. Not to mention Jackson's "unsportmen like" penalty on the sack. Didn't do anything.

yup, refs are sucking it up. no question. any idea when we get the real guys back?

@harry-buffalo said:

Refs are shitting their pants this game. Shurmer has to call them on letting the clock run after running out of bounds. Both Shurmer and Lewis should have told them in the first quarter that you stop running the clock on incomplete passes. Did anyone see 30 secs run off the clock after Green's dropped pass. Stupid. Not to mention Jackson's "unsportmen like" penalty on the sack. Didn't do anything.

Didnt a shit head Bungles d lineman throw trents shoe after he tackled him? I couldn't tell but that should be a penalty.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Annnnd...fumble. well, enjoy, gentleman. I'm taking the rest of the afternoon off to take the kid to the park.

Are you fuckin' kidding me dude? It's just now halftime and we're only down by a TD, and you're giving up already? GTFO of here you fucking scrub. What a true bandwagon fan. Have fun at the park. You will not be missed by the real Browns fans.