FACT: Our schedule has been brutal. (Especially considering all the rookies we have been starting)

Next couple games: @IND, SD, BAL, then the BYE

Let's win 2 out of 3 and go into the bye with 3-6... right? maybe

The end of the year looks like: @DAL, PIT, @OAK, KC, WAS, @DEN, @PIT

Really, do any of those last 7 games look un-winnable right now??? Not saying we're going to win them all, but we have a chance to finish much stronger than we started. OR, we could lose them all. I just don't know how optimistic/pessimistic to be, but it doesn't look like we'll be picking #1 next year anymore.

@jibz said:

Looks like were all seeing that glimmer now.... This is the start of some really good Browns times... Enjoy!

toast to you and all the believers.

i truly want to believe that the browns are turning the corner and headed in the right direction. my problem is, and has always been, i got to see it to believe it. today i saw it.

now if they can build off this win, not let the change over in ownership affect them then i can see a true chance at coming close to being a .500 team, albeit IMHO short by 3 - 4 games. the schedule is brutal. the bengals came in today ripe for the picking. now that we've won and have shown our cards on offense it'll probably get harder.

there's the glass half full and the glass half empty people. i'm the latter, but am always pleasantly surprised when proven wrong, especially when it comes to the browns.

the glimmer IS there and i see it in a lot of young talented players. let's hope this is a starting off point and leave the first 5 week disappointments behind us.

That's some good googling there, Po...

@poeticg said:

There. Now why can't I have what I want... A Browns' Playoff Game? This season is still getting started. We'll get Haden and Taylor back very soon and the only Defensive player we'll be missing will be Gocong. We'll start to fire on all cylinders and start a lot faster in games. Wins are coming, hopefully in bunches and I'm not giving up until we are mathmatically eliminated from earning a playoff berth. Now let's go Browns, we NEED a WIN this WEEKEND!!! Whatever it takes, pull out all the stops, it's now or never.

Thats the voice of a true fan. Some of you guys seem to love to complain. Some of us are Browns fans that just want the best, and want to win! I've only been watching the Browns since Sipe and the Kardiac Kids. If all of you complainers would have evaluated the quality of players on that team before their amazing run... you guys would have only seen doom and lack of skill. But they exploded. My gut says this team will explode by the end of the year.

Hang on true Browns fans, the ride is going to be a blast!

There. Now why can't I have what I want... A Browns' Playoff Game? This season is still getting started. We'll get Haden and Taylor back very soon and the only Defensive player we'll be missing will be Gocong. We'll start to fire on all cylinders and start a lot faster in games. Wins are coming, hopefully in bunches and I'm not giving up until we are mathmatically eliminated from earning a playoff berth. Now let's go Browns, we NEED a WIN this WEEKEND!!! Whatever it takes, pull out all the stops, it's now or never.

but for kosarfan to pick this 9 win 'all-of-a-sudden' top-ten looking run is fucking comical.

doesn't mean i want to 'mull around in the mud'. just means i'm realistic. hey, i want the browns to be superbowl champs for the next 20 years, i want pink ponies and flying cars? will it happen.

exactly.

here's one bright spot. haden will be back just in time to defend aj green. nice.

We've approached having a nucleus several times since the rebirth... we've yet to complete the puzzle.

Some prefer to roll in the mud. Enjoy yourself ! To each his/her own.

@miktoxic said:

you are high.

yeah i see a glimmer of hope and it's about 3 miles away in football years. by then little with have either learned to catch the ball or be on another team as an all-pro. weeden will be on his last year of his contract/nfl career along with joe thomas and DQ. TR will have been beaten down into a regular back.

don't you know this thing is all about timing? yeah we have to have a core of young players THAT HAVE TALENT, LOTS OF TALENT that grow together. that's when you add your YOUNG QB. that's when you add your stud rb. when the rest of the team is already in place.

last year's draft we needed a RT and he has yet to show up. we needed defensive backfield help. what???? we needed LB help. LJ fort has been the only bright spot.

so let's hope the old man can last 3 more years a TR won't get beat down that bad before we make it to the end of the tunnel.

BUT 9 WINS? GTFO. i betcha if this was week one you would have predicted 11. laughable.

It's just his opinion. No need to freak out.

@kosarfan said:

Disagree.

1) They were in a lousy mood after the Cowboys opener and are now 2-2 but only beat two much weaker 1-3 teams in the Bucs and Panthers. Outside of Eli, the offense in disarray. They cannot rely solely on Bradshaw as their runner. They should have kept Brandon Jacobs if for nothing else but a distraction and relief for Bradshaw.

2) Agree, they have a tough D line, but if we get our receivers to catch the ball (easier said than done) we can pick them apart.

3) Victor Cruz, although I like him, is somewhat inconsistent and not the caliber receiver that the Ravens put against our DB's.

4)Bradshaw cannot carry the Giants and our defense has been getting better every week. The Ravens Rice is much more a threat than Bradshaw and although he did run on us a fair amount, the game ended VERY close.

5) Agree, Elis is the real deal. He's the biggest problem.

I don't believe we're headed for the palyoffs, but a win on the second go around against the Bengals and Ravens, as well as two wins against the Squeelers and this season will not be a bust. A couple more wins (Colts, Raiders, Chiefs) and we will have turned around into a very respectable season and promise for 2013.

Wouldn't this be a nice way to finish off:

Eagles - L

Bengals - L

Bills - L

Ravens - L

Giants - W

Bengals - W

Colts - W

Chargers - L

Ravens - W

Cowboys - L

Steelers - W

Raiders - W

Chiefs - W

Redskins - W

Broncos - L

Steelers - W

you are high.

yeah i see a glimmer of hope and it's about 3 miles away in football years. by then little with have either learned to catch the ball or be on another team as an all-pro. weeden will be on his last year of his contract/nfl career along with joe thomas and DQ. TR will have been beaten down into a regular back.

don't you know this thing is all about timing? yeah we have to have a core of young players THAT HAVE TALENT, LOTS OF TALENT that grow together. that's when you add your YOUNG QB. that's when you add your stud rb. when the rest of the team is already in place.

last year's draft we needed a RT and he has yet to show up. we needed defensive backfield help. what???? we needed LB help. LJ fort has been the only bright spot.

so let's hope the old man can last 3 more years a TR won't get beat down that bad before we make it to the end of the tunnel.

BUT 9 WINS? GTFO. i betcha if this was week one you would have predicted 11. laughable.

@poeticg said:

Who is our guy that pumps up our team? We need an emotional leader... but wait I bet people would complain that he's getting pumped up, complaining that the game hasn't even started yet, right? We need somebody who will not except losing and challenges our players to FIGHT!

We do have a leader and his name is Brandon Weeden.

@hoorta said:

Don't see us beating the Giants or Ravens. I'll gladly take a split with the Steelers. You have us at 9 wins- I say no way Jose.

If you offered me five wins now, including a split with the Steelers I would shake your hand, skip down your driveway and drive off in a cloud of smoke before you even knew what had happened.

@hoorta said:

Like he said- the playoffs are in sight if you just look through the Hubble Telescope. Maybe in another year or two. The reality says since the merger in 1970, exactly one team has started 0-4 and made the playoffs.

The Browns would virtually have to run the table to make the post season. Much better odds of theme winding up 2-14. The next loss up on deck is playing the Giants on the road. I scouted them Sunday night against the Eagles, and I'm giving the Browns ZERO chance of walking out of NY with a win.

1) They will be in a foul mood after losing to Philly.

2) They have a standout D-line (Jason Pierre-Paul & Justin Tuck).

3) Patterson will get torched by Victor Cruz.

4) Steady bruising running game.

5) Eli Manning is on fire- IMHO he's currently playing superior to his older brother.

I am going to have to make that a trivia question this week.

I don't know the answer, but I will guess: the 1982 Raiders?

@kosarfan said:

Disagree.

1) They were in a lousy mood after the Cowboys opener and are now 2-2 but only beat two much weaker 1-3 teams in the Bucs and Panthers. Outside of Eli, the offense in disarray. They cannot rely solely on Bradshaw as their runner. They should have kept Brandon Jacobs if for nothing else but a distraction and relief for Bradshaw.

2) Agree, they have a tough D line, but if we get our receivers to catch the ball (easier said than done) we can pick them apart.

3) Victor Cruz, although I like him, is somewhat inconsistent and not the caliber receiver that the Ravens put against our DB's.

4)Bradshaw cannot carry the Giants and our defense has been getting better every week. The Ravens Rice is much more a threat than Bradshaw and although he did run on us a fair amount, the game ended VERY close.

5) Agree, Eli is is the real deal. He's the biggest problem.

I don't believe we're headed for the playoffs, but a win on the second go around against the Bengals and Ravens, as well as two wins against the Squeelers and this season will not be a bust. A couple more wins (Colts, Raiders, Chiefs) and we will have turned around into a very respectable season and promise for 2013.

Wouldn't this be a nice way to finish off:

Eagles - L

Bengals - L

Bills - L

Ravens - L

Giants - W

Bengals - W

Colts - W

Chargers - L

Ravens - W

Cowboys - L

Steelers - W

Raiders - W

Chiefs - W

Redskins - W

Broncos - L

Steelers - W

Don't see us beating the Giants or Ravens. I'll gladly take a split with the Steelers. You have us at 9 wins- I say no way Jose.

@hoorta said:

1) They will be in a foul mood after losing to Philly.

2) They have a standout D-line (Jason Pierre-Paul & Justin Tuck).

3) Patterson will get torched by Victor Cruz.

4) Steady bruising running game.

5) Eli Manning is on fire- IMHO he's currently playing superior to his older brother.

Disagree.

1) They were in a lousy mood after the Cowboys opener and are now 2-2 but only beat two much weaker 1-3 teams in the Bucs and Panthers. Outside of Eli, the offense in disarray. They cannot rely solely on Bradshaw as their runner. They should have kept Brandon Jacobs if for nothing else but a distraction and relief for Bradshaw.

2) Agree, they have a tough D line, but if we get our receivers to catch the ball (easier said than done) we can pick them apart.

3) Victor Cruz, although I like him, is somewhat inconsistent and not the caliber receiver that the Ravens put against our DB's.

4)Bradshaw cannot carry the Giants and our defense has been getting better every week. The Ravens Rice is much more a threat than Bradshaw and although he did run on us a fair amount, the game ended VERY close.

5) Agree, Elis is the real deal. He's the biggest problem.

I don't believe we're headed for the palyoffs, but a win on the second go around against the Bengals and Ravens, as well as two wins against the Squeelers and this season will not be a bust. A couple more wins (Colts, Raiders, Chiefs) and we will have turned around into a very respectable season and promise for 2013.

Wouldn't this be a nice way to finish off:

Eagles - L

Bengals - L

Bills - L

Ravens - L

Giants - W

Bengals - W

Colts - W

Chargers - L

Ravens - W

Cowboys - L

Steelers - W

Raiders - W

Chiefs - W

Redskins - W

Broncos - L

Steelers - W

@poeticg said:

No! I'm sick of us saying the same shit every year. This ain't over 'till it's over. Nobody throwing in any towels. We're getting Haden and Taylor back in a few weeks. We'll work out the kinks in the offense and then it will be on. The playoffs are still in sight, a lot of teams around the 500 mark right now. 4 weeks in and you're throwing up a white flag? GTFO then, nothing over!

Like he said- the playoffs are in sight if you just look through the Hubble Telescope. Maybe in another year or two. The reality says since the merger in 1970, exactly one team has started 0-4 and made the playoffs.

The Browns would virtually have to run the table to make the post season. Much better odds of them winding up 2-14. The next loss up on deck is playing the Giants on the road. I scouted them Sunday night against the Eagles, and I'm giving the Browns ZERO chance of walking out of NY with a win.

1) They will be in a foul mood after losing to Philly.

2) They have a standout D-line (Jason Pierre-Paul & Justin Tuck).

3) Patterson will get torched by Victor Cruz.

4) Steady bruising running game.

5) Eli Manning is on fire- IMHO he's currently playing superior to his older brother.

@jibz said:

I think Weeden will go down as one of the greatest QB's we have ever had.

@poeticg said:

No! I'm sick of us saying the same shit every year. This ain't over 'till it's over. Nobody throwing in any towels. We're getting Haden and Taylor back in a few weeks. We'll work out the kinks in the offense and then it will be on. The playoffs are still in sight, a lot of teams around the 500 mark right now. 4 weeks in and you're throwing up a white flag? GTFO then, nothing over!

The time has come for me to repeat one of my posts from last year:

I have two questions.

1. What are you smoking?

2. Can you get any more?

It's now or never for this season. We've gotta win NOW!

I am sick of the Browns and duh.....the Ravens didn't take them seriously.....

BTW....Weeded sucks, he didnt get rid of the ball quick enough all night long. Richardson is good but he will get injured and be out half the time playing behind the Weed.