@dab7291993 said:

It's not even Colt love, it's just the fact that we act like he was worse than Frye, Dilfer, Quinn, Dehlomme ETC.

Colt didn't work out here, sure. But we should stop acting like he was the worst QB we've ever had.

I'm not saying anything about Colt playing now or deserving to play...he's just not as bad as you guys make him out to be. You act like he was the reason we were bad, when it's obvious that it doesn't matter who our QB is we're still gonna lose games.

It's funny how last year we were 12th in 3rd down% and this season we're in the bottom 5 so far. You guys call Colt a drive killer, but we converted the 6th most 3rd downs in the entire league and converted them on a good %.

I think he is better than Quinn or Frye, but I also think he is a career backup. Nothing wrong with that, it's good work if you can get.

Zombo

Colt didn't work out here, sure. But we should stop acting like he was the worst QB we've ever had.

I'm not saying anything about Colt playing now or deserving to play...he's just not as bad as you guys make him out to be. You act like he was the reason we were bad, when it's obvious that it doesn't matter who our QB is we're still gonna lose games.

It's funny how last year we were 12th in 3rd down% and this season we're in the bottom 5 so far. You guys call Colt a drive killer, but we converted the 6th most 3rd downs in the entire league and converted them on a good %.

@poeticg said:

I SAID "Sprinkle in Colt here and there, there's nothing wrong with letting the youngster get out there for a few plays here and there... or maybe, just maybe the Weeden Pimps are nervous to see that Colt has reached a new level. The kid can play. Let him see the feild now and again.

Why would any team "sprinkle in" the back up? Any team?

Your quarterback is your commander and leader. You don't "sprinkle in" somebody else.

If you feel Colt would make the better starter, just say it. But no one is getting "sprinkled in"

Zombo

@dab7291993 said:

Everyone shits on McCoy like he was the worst QB we ever had, I don't get it.

It's not for lack of effort. He was a 3rd round pick because he was an unknown. His measurables weren't great so that's why he was picked in that round. They took a gamble on him and it didn't work out. Not saying it was all him, but defenses don't respect his arm and they have no reason to.

The Browns picked an AARP QB in the 1st round this year. No way they lose any time with Weeden. He was picked in the first round because he measurables were good. He can move the ball better and opens up more plays.

Get over the Colt man love. This is a Browns forum, not a Longhorns forum.

@poeticg said:

I SAID "Sprinkle in Colt here and there, there's nothing wrong with letting the youngster get out there for a few plays here and there... or maybe, just maybe the Weeden Pimps are nervous to see that Colt has reached a new level. The kid can play. Let him see the feild now and again.

New level lol, are you saying he can throw the ball 40 yards now? Or he's figured out that receivers dont catch the ball with their knees or feet??

@nicknasti said:

Not that I am a Colt fanand I am not saying bench Weeden just yet, but he never had a fair shot at QB.

Looking at last season:

-WR Little led the entire league in dropped passes

-WR MoMass wont even put his arms out to catch a ball if there's a defender within 5 yards. Half of those he drops.

-RB Hardesty couldnt be 2nd string on most teams

-OL so bad Colt had more yards scrammbling then our RB did each game.

-By the end of the season, Colt took so many hits he understandably had no confidence in his OL so couldnt go through progression

As bad as we are this year, we have twice as much talent as we did last year.

One positive thing I can say for Colt is that he will play hard and give it his all.

Let's stick with Weeden, but if he isnt consistent by mid-season let him watch a few from the sidelies

How exactly do you figure we have twice as much talent this year than last? Everyone you listed still starts, with the exception of Hardesty. Are you figuring in Schwartz? Because he's hardly been a world beater at RT.

Little still leads the entire league in dropped passes. MoMass has only played half the games this year, and hasn't exactly been a star when he was playing.

Weeden does get a lot of help from Richardson, I will agree. Unfortunately, he only gets that help 66% of the time he's on the field as Richardson is apparently best utilized on the sidelines on third down for some reason.

Looking at last season:

-WR Little led the entire league in dropped passes

-WR MoMass wont even put his arms out to catch a ball if there's a defender within 5 yards. Half of those he drops.

-RB Hardesty couldnt be 2nd string on most teams

-OL so bad Colt had more yards scrammbling then our RB did each game.

-By the end of the season, Colt took so many hits he understandably had no confidence in his OL so couldnt go through progression

As bad as we are this year, we have twice as much talent as we did last year.

One positive thing I can say for Colt is that he will play hard and give it his all.

Let's stick with Weeden, but if he isnt consistent by mid-season let him watch a few from the sidelies

@dab7291993 said:

So we have a big-armed, drive-killing QB that throws behind receivers? huh

Weeden is throwing behind receivers?

Umm, maybe every once in awhile

Did you watch Colt play last year?

If Weeden eliminates mistakes we have big play potential from anywhere on the field and a QB that can make all the throws.

If McCoy eliminates his mistakes then he can lead us to 14 points per game instead of 10.

Sounds like someone misses the ol' 5 yards pass thrown behind the receiver on third and 7. Those were fun.

Zombo

@dab7291993 said:

So we have a big-armed, should be drive-sustaining QB that hits receivers in the hands but yet they can't catch the ball? huh

Fixed it.

Zombo said:

That's exactly what this team needs: a short-armed, drive-killing QB that throws behind receivers. Then we'd start holding teams under 40 points!

Zombo

So we have a big-armed, drive-killing QB that throws behind receivers? huh

@poeticg said:

I think the ENTIRE team would be a lot better if we sprinkled in a little Colt McCoy. I understand that Weeden is "the guy" but Colt isn't terrible either. I think he has some really good qualities and could ignite our offense ala the WildDawg formations.

That's exactly what this team needs: a short-armed, drive-killing QB that throws behind receivers. Then we'd start holding teams under 40 points!

Zombo

@browns149 said:

That's right. The Browns want to run an offense that was pedicated on Montana, to Soloman,Clark,Rice,Tyler,Craig.........Young to,Rice,Waters,Jones,Taylor, Farve to Sharpe,Levins,Freeman,Chumra

we need atleast 2 WR's, a hall of fame QB, and an all-pro TE to match any of those teams

The Packers, Rams and Eagles both run West Coast influenced offenses.

Only one of those has a Hall of Fame QB. None have All Pro TEs. But you are right, we need WRs. Little and Gordon wouldn't be so bad if they actually could catch the ball.

Our WR corps will be MoMass, Gordon and Norwood soon.

@miktoxic said:

a West Coast Offense on the North Coast that is as out of date and crappy as an edsel.

fucking fools.

That's right. The Browns want to run an offense that was pedicated on Montana, to Soloman,Clark,Rice,Tyler,Craig.........Young to,Rice,Waters,Jones,Taylor, Farve to Sharpe,Levins,Freeman,Chumra

we need atleast 2 WR's, a hall of fame QB, and an all-pro TE to match any of those teams

We can count on one hand how many times a receiver has caught a pass with open field in front of him.

The playcalling needs to get better and the execution needs to get better.

fucking fools.

btw, drafting weeden was the biggest mistake of cleveland's draft this year. if YAC are so important in this scheme (WCO) then why do you need a QB to throw a 60 yd. bomb? you throw the little dump offs the 30 yard slants and the screens. WHAT YOU DON'T DO IS THROW PICK 6'S EVERY SUNDAY!!!!

@dab7291993 said:

Gordon is a rookie and Little is in his second year, you have no point.

seeing as they are rookies' and second year guys..................there BEST quality should be running after the catch.

@browns149 said:

My point EXACTLLY.........

Gordon is a rookie and Little is in his second year, you have no point.

@poeticg said:

I think the ENTIRE team would be a lot better if we sprinkled in a little Colt McCoy. I understand that Weeden is "the guy" but Colt isn't terrible either. I think he has some really good qualities and could ignite our offense ala the WildDawg formations.

do you think Mccoy would have completed that "BOMB" to Gordon last sunday?