@hoorta said:

Yes the two wins were pleasant surprises- but don't let that cloud your vision. I'd still take Luck and the #2 running back over Weeden and Richardson. Weeden might be equal right now, but his shelf life will be at least 5 years shorter than Luck's.

No way of knowing that at this point. Chances are, Luck will have a longer career but that's no guarentee.

Zombo said:

I think Weeden is, and will continue to be, as good as Luck

I wouldn't trade Richardson and Weeden for Luck and a different guy at #22 from what I have seen so far.

And those two wins were good for my sanity.

Zombo

Yes the two wins were pleasant surprises- but don't let that cloud your vision. I'd still take Luck and the #2 running back over Weeden and Richardson. Weeden might be equal right now, but his shelf life will be at least 5 years shorter than Luck's.

@ithika said:

That player is Mante Te'o he fits perfect as an OLB in this scheme. Jarvis Jones projects to be an OLB in a 3-4 scheme not a DE in the scheme we run. Now if for some reason we go back to the 3-4 than Jones might be a better pick. But if you want the highest impact in this scheme you want Mante Teo. Every week his draft stock rises and i wouldn't be surprised if he goes as high as 4 when its all said and done. the guy is very intelligent, high character and loves to hit! We would instantly have one of the best LB corps in football with his addition. Hell when was the last time you heard a LB mentioned in heisman talk? He's a once in a decade LB. Teo reminds me of Troy P at the linebacker position a nasty hitter thats very smart and fast. We'll regret it if we pass on him!

I think he would be a great pick for us as well.

@wrrebel said:

we need a play maker on defense. A ball hawk.. Look how poopy the steelers look on D when Gayboy Troy doesnt play. Ed Reed of the Ravens..

Someone like Clay Matthews, Brian HGH Cushing..

An impact defensive player.

That player is Manti Te'o he fits perfect as an OLB in this scheme. Jarvis Jones projects to be an OLB in a 3-4 scheme not a DE in the scheme we run. Now if for some reason we go back to the 3-4 than Jones might be a better pick. But if you want the highest impact in this scheme you want Manti Teo. Every week his draft stock rises and i wouldn't be surprised if he goes as high as 4 when its all said and done. the guy is very intelligent, high character and loves to hit! We would instantly have one of the best LB corps in football with his addition. Hell when was the last time you heard a LB mentioned in heisman talk? He's a once in a decade LB. Teo reminds me of Troy P at the linebacker position a nasty hitter thats very smart and fast. We'll regret it if we pass on him!

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

That injury definitely looks like a career ender...If he ever plays football again it will be a testament to how far we've come in the medical field...30 years ago he'd never be able to walk again without a crutch...And even now that knee will never be the same

He may still be able to play. There were no breaks, only a dislocation and ligament damage. The first report of the injury on ESPN was wrong.

Can you grey shirt in football?

Jones is a great fit on this team.

Jones, Jackson, Johnson across the board.

@b86b said:

I wouldn't judge him just on his performance against the Gators, saying their offense line is horrible is being nice. Theres a reason they were running the ball so much. gotta check out DaMontre Moore next time aTm is on the tube, guy is a beast...

How in the world does Lattimore not enter the draft??? No way he goes back to school to risk being injured again..

Lattimore's dream was to play for Carolina and to win a Heisman. He's an absolutely fantastic guy and has clearly said before that the NFL will be there when he's done with college. I have met him on campus and spoken with him at parties and he just doesn't seem like the guy to ditch college because the NFL is knocking.

Also, his draft stock is clearly going to fall, so it would just make sense to stay in school and try to improve his stock.

@miktoxic said:

yeah i forgot i didn't watch any football yesterday. and i also forgot to check with you before i posted. cuz god knows you can't agree with one thing i have to say.

that's alright. weren't you one of the guys out front with a sign waiting for holmgren to get off the plane like he was some prophet or war hero? and you also said klein would not be an option for us next draft. dude he's an option for any team even if you pick him to trade and get picks.

I don't think I ever said anything about Klein. I don't know enough about him, I have paid 0 attention to him.

but I do admit I was excited for Holmgren.

Someone like Clay Matthews, Brian HGH Cushing..

An impact defensive player.

@tour2ma said:

Agree with Latimore sentiments... after battling back from one knee injury to suffer what may well be an even more catastrophic one to the other knee is just devastating.

Then again I never thought McGahee would make it as a pro... so there's always hope.

Meanwhile back at the topic...

I like the GA kid as well, but feel our need is greater in the middle. And I'm liking Te'o more and more every week...

greater need in the middle? Dquell Jackson is the least of our worries on defense. We need OLBs, CB, FS, and depth all around..

Then again I never thought McGahee would make it as a pro... so there's always hope.

Meanwhile back at the topic...

I like the GA kid as well, but feel our need is greater in the middle. And I'm liking Te'o more and more every week...

@badnewsbrowns said:

I'd of gladly sacrificed Jacksonville and Seattle wins last year for Luck or Griffin.

I think Weeden is, and will continue to be, as good as Luck

I wouldn't trade Richardson and Weeden for Luck and a different guy at #22 from what I have seen so far.

And those two wins were good for my sanity.

Zombo

@browns149 said:

after seeing that leg dangling like it was, He will not be ready for next year, and will have to go back to school. Didn't he blow out the other knee last year as well?

yeah he is better off finishing up school. seems like a good kid finish his education and rehab and see what happens. His injury reminds of a lot of Alvin Macks from the program.

@wrrebel said:

Well lattimore's injury will prevent him from being ready from the beginning of the season next year. With teams opting for drafting RBS later in the draft if he enters he will be a 3-5 rd pick. Depending on how severe the injury is.

If i was the kid i would rehab it and go back to school.

after seeing that leg dangling like it was, He will not be ready for next year, and will have to go back to school. Didn't he blow out the other knee last year as well?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Lattimore will not be the number one RB taken. He will not even enter the draft, more than likely.

He may never play meaningful football again.

wow. i think you are correct about this.

If i was the kid i would rehab it and go back to school.

How in the world does Lattimore not enter the draft??? No way he goes back to school to risk being injured again..

that's alright. weren't you one of the guys out front with a sign waiting for holmgren to get off the plane like he was some prophet or war hero? and you also said klein would not be an option for us next draft. dude he's an option for any team even if you pick him to trade and get picks.

@miktoxic said:

well considering the teams options that will be picking in the top five next year you gotta figure out which each team's needs will be.

i think klein will be the #1 qb taken. lattimore the #1 rb. we'll be looking for DE or LB @ #3. and hopefully we'll move up or have something in the middle to late 1st round to get a comparable CB to haden.

Lattimore will not be the number one RB taken. He will not even enter the draft, more than likely.

He may never play meaningful football again.

i think klein will be the #1 qb taken. lattimore the #1 rb. we'll be looking for DE or LB @ #3. and hopefully we'll move up or have something in the middle to late 1st round to get a comparable CB to haden.

@hunt-daddy said:

Jadeveon is a true sophomore and can't come out until the 2014 draft.

I know this, hence the "keep calm" part.

Whatever we do in next year's draft is immaterial if we land Jadeveon in the following one. Kid is going to be the best defensive player to ever come out. He is an absolute freak.