@hoorta said:

What other coach in the NFL punts on the other team's 40 (4th and a yard) down a score with less than 3 minutes left in the game? It isn't bad coaching- it's moronic gameday decisions. Shur-loss can't coach his way out of a paper bag.

And why I don't expect to see the Browns win today despite we are facing a Steeler team down to their 3rd team QB.

I see it like this....if we can run the ball, we'll start throwing. If we can throw, we'll decide we need to smashmouth for 1-2 yard gains.

This is the last trip up for the season. Usually I am a bit sorry it is about over for another year This year I feel a bit of relief.

@dick-mellon said:

Dude, I'm in the mountains outside of Hong Kong.

I left da Rustbelt a long time ago.

I never lived in Cleveland.

Youngstahn is a fuckin' shit-hole, I can't believe anybody still lives there.

Trafficant is da man though.

Memphis is outside of Hong Kong?

@stlcrtn01 said:

Funny how you make fun of Youngstown when Cleveland is just a larger version of it.

Dude, I'm in the mountains outside of Hong Kong.

I left da Rustbelt a long time ago.

I never lived in Cleveland.

Youngstahn is a fuckin' shit-hole, I can't believe anybody still lives there.

Trafficant is da man though.

Here is a fact for you, this vaunted Steelers D that everyone is enamored with got burned by Tebow last year in the playoffs and by Carson Palmer and Tim Hasselbeck a little over a month ago. Three things all those games have in common besides 3 of the worst Qb’s in the league, they were all on the road. If the Raiders had no problems scoring at will against Pittsburgh, then Cleveland, who I believe is a much better team, could do the same thing.

Pittsburgh’s D blew their wad last weekend and will not play like that this week. I will be absolutely shocked if Cleveland doesn’t win this game handily. I still stand by prediction of 20-3 Cleveland.

@stlcrtn01 said:

Cleveland 20

Pittsburgh 3

Further proof that Steelers fans are idiots.

Please ignore this Rustbelt Steelers fan from Youngstahn Ahya, and consider the facts.

The Ravens are among the highest scoring teams in the NFL at 27 Points Per Game (PPG)

The Browns are among the lowest scoring teams in the NFL at 19 PPG.

The Steelers defense limited the Ravens to six points last week.

The Steelers kick coverage was responsible for allowing seven points last week,

thanks to the officials failing to call a block-in-the-back penalty.

The Browns ace in da hole is Josh Cribbs in that the Steelers kick coverage is not very good this season,

but in spite of that, they have only allowed one TD all season, which was last week against the Ravens.

I don't care who da Steelers QB is coz the Steelers will be able to generate enough shitty offense to outscore da Browns,

unless Josh Cribbs returns one or two for a TD.

I don't make final game-score predictions,

but I will say that it's unlikely that the Browns offense will score any TD's,

and they may not even score any points at all.

@the-gipper said:

I believe the record is this: No rookie QB has ever won a game against a Dick LeBeau defense since he became DC of the Steelers.

That is the statistic that concerns me.

With all due respect sir, lightning did strike once, as LeBeau's Steelers defense was beaten by rookie QB, Troy Smith on Sunday, December 30, 2007.

Final Score PIT 21 at BAL 27.

The Starting QB for the Steelers was Charlie Batch who threw two interceptions that day.

The Ravens ran the ball for 180 yards and stopped the running game of the Steelers that day, only allowing 46 yards.

All in all it was a case of running the ball and stopping the run that won the game for the Ravens.

Neither QB played all that well, or all that bad.

Yeh, Batch threw two INT's but he also threw two TD's. . . .

Homotron said:

You can't seriously believe that, but I would guess they'd have a better record. Either way a couple facts remain. Your coach is bad and the Steelers have been decimated by injuries. I just hope the Steelers can get healthy and make a run.

Maybe not 8-2. At least 5-5 and in the playoff hunt.

Shurmur costs this team games with his poor coaching, poor adjustments, poor play calling.

No ifs, ands or buts.

@dste-ace said:

Personally, I'd rather face Leftwich.

Charlie Batch usually stinks up the joint when coming into the game cold off the bench--BUT--as a starter

with the Steelers over the years, I believe his record is something like 5-2. When he is able

to work with and get reps with the starting unit during the week before the game, he usually plays

pretty well.

And, I gotta tell you, I don't have much confidence in our QB (or our head coach) going up against the Steeler defense.

I believe the record is this: No rookie QB has ever won a game against a Dick LeBeau defense since he became DC of the Steelers.

That is the statistic that concerns me.

LeBeau makes mincemeat out of rookie QBs. It don't matter if Pollygirly is in there or Harrison or Barney Fife. LeBeau finds a way of getting them to play and to confuse rookie QBs.

@tampadawgs said:

LOL We have a Pittsburgh Guy saying the Browns win ans a Browns guy saying Pittsburgh wins

What is this world coming too!!!!!

PS This is a no win game for the Browns

Browns win people will say Big Ben didnt play and they were using there third string QB

Browns Lose then we will get shit from everyone about losing to a third string QB....

The Fact is that Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the NFL, and he will hae his troops ready to rock and roll

But I do not give a shit

Browns win 24-13

Phil Dawson kicks 8 Field goals, steelers get a pick 6 and two field goals. We play Shurmer football run up and down the 20s and then kick field goals.....

The Steelers have won nearly every game they have won on the basis of having a better defense than the other teams.

People ignore this: The Steelers won a SB with a raw, basically inept QB in 2005 based on their defense.

BR has greatly improved since then....but the Steelers still win with defense.

If they win Sunday it will be because of their defense.

Plain, simple, stupid.

Homotron said:

Gipper I don't get on this board and make sh.it up and if a player does mess with the towel it's not known to the Steeler players or the national media. The two times it was made known and shown intentionally to "Steeler Nation" the Steelers won the Super Bowl. I'm not making it up, it happened. Twice. Ray Rice did it again on Sunday soooo take it with a grain of salt but it still happened and then Woodely commented on it after the game.

And I suppose you think that if you stand on your head the entire game that that is why the Steelers will win.

Superstitions are pretty much stupid, even if they are ubiquitous.

Keep thinking that just because someone did something with the silly towels that that means the Gods will come and strike him dead.

And keep sacrificing goats.

Homotron said:

You can't seriously believe that, but I would guess they'd have a better record. Either way a couple facts remain. Your coach is bad and the Steelers have been decimated by injuries. I just hope the Steelers can get healthy and make a run.

What other coach in the NFL punts on the other team's 40 (4th and a yard) down a score with less than 3 minutes left in the game? It isn't bad coaching- it's moronic gameday decisions. Shur-loss can't coach his way out of a paper bag.

@tampadawgs said:

You know your a bad coach when other team fans say your coach sucks LOL

you know your a bad coach when your record is 6-20

@the-cysko-kid said:

Ugh. Can't say I blame him.

Chicken Little isn't as dumb as he looks

Homotron said:

Chicken little doesn't reside in the Pittsburgh area.

Ugh. Can't say I blame him.

@hoorta said:

spare me the shoulda, coulda, woulda didn't. The Browns would be 8-2 if they had a head coach who wasn't an idiot.

You can't seriously believe that, but I would guess they'd have a better record. Either way a couple facts remain. Your coach is bad and the Steelers have been decimated by injuries. I just hope the Steelers can get healthy and make a run.

Homotron said:

If the Steelers get healthy and that's a big if it's not even a question. They'd have dumped on the Ravens if not for Ben being out and the Ravens themselves are banged up. I also don't believe the Broncos fair as well with the Steeler defense playing like it is and really the only team that scares me IF! the Steelers are healthy is the Texans. As of right now there are no guarantees Ben makes it back for the regular season but as already mentioned we do have a favorable schedule and it's possible Batch does get us enough wins to make the playoffs. Brown should be back soon, we're then hoping that Ben comes back without a hitch and troy eventually gets back on the field. DeCastro was cleared to play as of this morning. THe STeelers have 3 weeks to decide under the new IR rules if they want to add him back to the active roster without it effecting the current roster total. I could see Ramon Foster bumped out to RT so Heath Miller doesn't have to stay in and block all the time to help Adams. Adams has been good in run support but not pass protection. (He is a rookie after all). Either way a healthy Steeler team is ridiculously dangerous and really Tomlin deserves a lot of credit for the team remaining in the hunt. Injuries have decimated the roster. Either way the "fall of the steelers" is very premature as it always is and Chicken little doesn't reside in the Pittsburgh area.

spare me the shoulda, coulda, woulda didn't. The Browns would be 8-2 if they had a head coach who wasn't an idiot.

Lol look what people that go to the game sunday will be receiving. lmao. WE SURRENDER!

*EDIT: Nothing can now be said about the Terrible towels, you've got these "cute" little flags.

@hoorta said:

Right now OBJECTIVELY I'd say the Steelers have a hell of a lot less chance of making the SB than- in no particular order- the Texans, Ravens, Patriots, or Broncos. You stand right now as the #6 seed- be grateful the schedule is in your favor.

Oh, BTW, the Browns can throw a huge monkey wrench into your SB dreams- like they did a few years back on Thursday night this coming Sunday. Really- Charlie Batch is going to win every game he's in until Ben is over his owie? I sincerely doubt it.

If the Steelers get healthy and that's a big if it's not even a question. They'd have dumped on the Ravens if not for Ben being out and the Ravens themselves are banged up. I also don't believe the Broncos fair as well with the Steeler defense playing like it is and really the only team that scares me IF! the Steelers are healthy is the Texans. As of right now there are no guarantees Ben makes it back for the regular season but as already mentioned we do have a favorable schedule and it's possible Batch does get us enough wins to make the playoffs. Brown should be back soon, we're then hoping that Ben comes back without a hitch and troy eventually gets back on the field. DeCastro was cleared to play as of this morning. THe STeelers have 3 weeks to decide under the new IR rules if they want to add him back to the active roster without it effecting the current roster total. I could see Ramon Foster bumped out to RT so Heath Miller doesn't have to stay in and block all the time to help Adams. Adams has been good in run support but not pass protection. (He is a rookie after all). Either way a healthy Steeler team is ridiculously dangerous and really Tomlin deserves a lot of credit for the team remaining in the hunt. Injuries have decimated the roster. Either way the "fall of the steelers" is very premature as it always is and Chicken little doesn't reside in the Pittsburgh area.

Charlie Batch usually stinks up the joint when coming into the game cold off the bench--BUT--as a starter

with the Steelers over the years, I believe his record is something like 5-2. When he is able

to work with and get reps with the starting unit during the week before the game, he usually plays

pretty well.

And, I gotta tell you, I don't have much confidence in our QB (or our head coach) going up against the Steeler defense.

Homotron said:

Do you read? Do i really think we're going to win the Super Bowl this season because someone publicly "messed" with the towel? No. I think we have as much of a shot as anyone else but I don't think that's going to put things over the top. However and for the LAST TIME the first time someone defaced it publicly the Steelers went and won the Super Bowl. The second time the same thing occurred. Ray Rice just messed with it on Sunday and the Steelers are fired up about it. F&ckin read.

Right now OBJECTIVELY I'd say the Steelers have a hell of a lot less chance of making the SB than- in no particular order- the Texans, Ravens, Patriots, or Broncos. You stand right now as the #6 seed- be grateful the schedule is in your favor.

Oh, BTW, the Browns can throw a huge monkey wrench into your SB dreams- like they did a few years back on Thursday night this coming Sunday. Really- Charlie Batch is going to win every game he's in until Ben is over his owie? I sincerely doubt it.

What is this world coming too!!!!!

PS This is a no win game for the Browns

Browns win people will say Big Ben didnt play and they were using there third string QB

Browns Lose then we will get shit from everyone about losing to a third string QB....

The Fact is that Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the NFL, and he will hae his troops ready to rock and roll

But I do not give a shit

Browns win 24-13

Phil Dawson kicks 8 Field goals, steelers get a pick 6 and two field goals. We play Shurmer football run up and down the 20s and then kick field goals.....

@miktoxic said:

all i know is you guys should have won that game if not for a lame QB.

who do you blame for not taking him out?

tomlin made shurmur look like a genius.

I don't blame Tomlin and here is why. Let's say he puts Batch in and we're down to our last quarterback. Batch isn't exactly Iron Man and it's possible he'd have gotten injured himself. Fast forward to this week. Are the Steelers seriously supposed to hurry up prepare Brian Hoyer to play a important division game? Tomlin did what he had to do to further ensure the future of the team. Batch is the only one that knows the offense still standing and they'll need at least this week and next to get Hoyer even relatively close and even then it's going to take quite a bit longer. They simply couldn't risk a Batch injury and that's my best guess for why he wasn't put in, the game was close and our defense was playing lights out. In the end it was the difference of one or two completions that could have won that football game. The cookie just didn't crumble that way, shurmur might have tossed him in and that's why Mike Tomlin has been to two Super Bowls and will likely go to a few more.

Homotron said:

Alright it's official; you can't read.

all i know is you guys should have won that game if not for a lame QB.

who do you blame for not taking him out?

tomlin made shurmur look like a genius.