I hope Winn is shifted to DE so that we can be top5 against the run next year. The reason our pass D was ranked so high last year was because nobody had to pass to win.

Te'o would be a great addition - he can shut down TE's as well as play the run.

Jones/Hankins/Moore/Lotulelei will be taken before Cleveland picks. Yes, the 2 LSU DE's will still be available -- but I'd rather have Te'o.

If not Te'o, they'll choose between DE Werner from FSU or CB Milliner from Alabama.

I think it's safe to say we will have a eye on the defensive side of the ball and I also think we will be in a prime position to trade down a few slots to secure a 2nd round pick. With that in mind I think we will probably be drafting down around 20 rather than say at 10.

I'm not saying that the other positions aren't important, but adding a quality linebacker or two would drastically push this defense over the top moreso than adding a good corner, in my eyes.

@thaak said:

Lets say we have an option to take Te'o.

He's a Middle LB. We have Jackson. Do we take him anyways?

Interesting question. I think if the management feels that he is head and shoulders the best football player available then we should grab him. Also, a couple of months ago, I read that the Ravens were very interested in trying to draft him to replace Ray Lewis at some point. Hampering a division foe while drafting a position that is not in need is a quandary. I think it boils down to just how good you think he will be at the next level.

@the-gipper said:

The Browns have been missing Dmitri Patterson. Do you think if he is healthy that he is the answer to their CB issue?

He wasn't all that good when Haden was out.

No, I still think we are in need of a killer #2 cover corner...or a FS.

Patterson is not a solution at CB. In my opinion, cornerback is the biggest position of need for this team. The Dallas game as well as the four games from Haden's suspension are potent reminders of how little depth we have in the secondary. Free safety should not be ignored either. I believe that the team can hold out for another draft to go LB and DE. I even think that OG and TE are more of a need at this point. All that being said, you can never ignore talent.

@the-gipper said:

The Browns have been missing Dmitri Patterson. Do you think if he is healthy that he is the answer to their CB issue?

He wasn't all that good when Haden was out.

No, I still think we are in need of a killer #2 cover corner...or a FS.

It seems that a "shutdown corner" one year is lousy a year or two later. There are very few Woodsons in the game. If asked you to name the corners and safeties on the 49ers could you? Not saying you're not an informed fan but most couldn't and they are the second rated pass defense.

@baconhound said:

Pass Rush, OL, WR

I think the DBs are solid if the QB is pressured.

The Browns have been missing Dmitri Patterson. Do you think if he is healthy that he is the answer to their CB issue?

He wasn't all that good when Haden was out.

No, I still think we are in need of a killer #2 cover corner...or a FS.

I think the DBs are solid if the QB is pressured.

He's a Middle LB. We have Jackson. Do we take him anyways?

and move Billy Wynn to DE......

To me,it would be lb in the first round...

few desperate needs for the Browns now. That should make it

an exciting draft.

@poeticg said:

Haha!

Oh it's a battle everyday when I go to work. My partner has Doug Martin and I've got Trent in our dept's fantasy league. He's rubbing it in daily on how far ahead Martin is on Richardson. It's alright though, T-Dog has played 5 games vs the AFCN and is just hitting the easy part of the season. Plus, he's been battling injuries since last season's National Championship. Watch Trent Go! Tomorrow. 185 Rushing Yards, 3 TD's on the ground and add another 74 yards and a score through the air. He's about to go STUPID

just lettin everyone know that we can poke fun at each other...but when it comes down to it...we're all BROWNS fans.

poG: i predicted in another post that i think TR will be pushing close to 200 yds. tomorrow with weeden looking like RG3...

a couple of thoughts... man come on KENT Fing STATE! they had it in their hands. and georgia. oh hoo georgia? my friend is measuring the distance from his overhead beam along with the chair distance drop. best friend. root for his team...turn my phone off.

nah. just kiddin. he's a 'touched' sec fan from a girlfriend long ago. but to hear "joe ja" for an hour and a half is pretty tough watching the real championship game: BIG TEN/12/14/16.

we might have a shot.

Oh it's a battle everyday when I go to work. My partner has Doug Martin and I've got Trent in our dept's fantasy league. He's rubbing it in daily on how far ahead Martin is on Richardson. It's alright though, T-Dog has played 5 games vs the AFCN and is just hitting the easy part of the season. Plus, he's been battling injuries since last season's National Championship. Watch Trent Go! Tomorrow. 185 Rushing Yards, 3 TD's on the ground and add another 74 yards and a score through the air. He's about to go STUPID

@comeonman said:

Why not try for a premiere left tackle

c,mon man....i'm waiting for him to take the bait!

(you're new here so all i have to do is say poeticG is TR's biggest fan. without doubt. no ?'s asked. to say he isn't performing is like throwin out the chowda to see who's taking the bait and waiting for the boat to get rammed.)

@miktoxic said:

i think we should look at addressing depth at the RB position. maybe we could trade a couple of picks and get the best available?

i mean TR sure hasn't produced like we all thought he would.

maybe the RB from wisconsin?

Why not try for a premiere left tackle

@poeticg said:

WarMack is an Awesome name! Wedged in between Mack and Schwartz... our Line would be BEAST!

I also think LB would be nice. Certainly would prefer to go Defense in round 1. CB or LB, possibly FS if the right guy is there.

On offense... solidify the line, maybe add a FB? Not too many Needs left to fill on this team from my POV. Maybe with our Draft picks and an aggressive FA we could contend for a Title next year... that's IF we don't sneak into the show via a wildcard with an 8-8 finish...

i think we should look at addressing depth at the RB position. maybe we could trade a couple of picks and get the best available?

i mean TR sure hasn't produced like we all thought he would.

maybe the RB from wisconsin?

I also think LB would be nice. Certainly would prefer to go Defense in round 1. CB or LB, possibly FS if the right guy is there.

On offense... solidify the line, maybe add a FB? Not too many Needs left to fill on this team from my POV. Maybe with our Draft picks and an aggressive FA we could contend for a Title next year... that's IF we don't sneak into the show via a wildcard with an 8-8 finish...

@harry-buffalo said:

The whole, don't take this position here, argument is basically void now with the new rookie pay scale (except for kickers, punters, and FB). It used to be no one wanted to pay a certain position so much money so they wouldn't draft them till later. That's why MLB and G/C would fall to the later half of the first round. Now that they don't make so much money right off the bat it's possible to pick they positions up around 5th overall.

I don't think that the Browns are quite at the point where they can just go take the Best Player Available. Those needs at OLB/DE/CB/FS are too great. Maybe they can afford to go with BPA within the parameters of those several needs, as I don't think they should take say, an offensive tackle, simply because one of those may be the best on the board.

Someone in that triumviate of need will likely be available, and likely be, according to the experts a so called value pick. (but, of course we know that 1st round busts do come witha high percentage figure).

@the-gipper said:

I think it will be a matter of who is available. I think the Browns will win some games the rest of the year thus dropping them down some draft slots thus dropping them out of the Jarvis Jones/Teo sweepstakes. Right now those guys seem like Top 5 talent.

If those two are not in the picture for the Browns there may be the likes of Barkevious Mingo or Sam Montgomery, both of LSU in the picture for them. Or perhaps the DB from Alabama, Milliner. That would be alright. At DE if they did go there they could go Moore of Texas A&M or Werner of FSU, both of whom are ranked in the top 10 overall prospects.

There is this OG Chance Warmack of Alabama who is also a Top 10 prospect, but, to me, Top 10 for an OG seems a little high....given that I think we could live with Lauvao etc. for now.

The whole, don't take this position here, argument is basically void now with the new rookie pay scale (except for kickers, punters, and FB). It used to be no one wanted to pay a certain position so much money so they wouldn't draft them till later. That's why MLB and G/C would fall to the later half of the first round. Now that they don't make so much money right off the bat it's possible to pick they positions up around 5th overall.

@dab7291993 said:

If we were in the 8-12 range I'd take Reid.

Mingo isn't producing on the field this year, I was high on him coming into the year as well. If we land Jones I'll be ecstatic.

I wouldn't take a FB any earlier and Eifert is a guy I'd like. We gotta have a good draft, we gotta find some starters in the 3rd/4th that can produce.

With no 2d round pick the Browns would need to find a starter in Round 1 and Round 3. I don't think that a 4th rounder should be expected to have more than a 1/3rd chance of being a quality starter. In fact, less face it, the Browns history of drafting in the 4th round is awful. Since 1959 these have been the Browns 4th round picks: (they have not had a 4th rounder every year):

Travis Benjamin

James Michael Johnson

Jordan Cameron

Owen Marecic

Kaluka Maiava

Beau Bell

Martion Rucker

Leon Williams

Isaac Sowells

Antonio Perkins

Luke McCown

Lee Suggs

Kevin Bentley

Ben Taylor

Anthony Henry

Lewis Sanders

Aaron Shea

Wali Rainer

Other than the last two years (for which it is too early to tell) only Anthony Henry and Aaron Shea seem like starter material (on bad teams). Maiava is a starter only by default.

In fact, their third round picks historically have been not much better if at all. Here are their third rounders since 1999:

John "The Sausage King" Hughes

Colt McCoy

Shaun Lauvao

Travis Wilson

Charlie Frye

Chris Crocker

Melvin Fowler

James Jackson

Travis Prentice

JaJuan Dawson

Daylon McCutcheon

Marquis Smith

Only McCutcheon was a lengthy starter. Lauvao is a guy a lot want replaced. Chric Crocker was pretty good but he moved on at the first opportunity.