@the-cysko-kid said:

Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

Hate to break it to people but Hendrix was doing hammer ons and pull offs. Not really playing with his teeth.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Local Cleveland whack-job Glenn schwartz apparently mentored Joe Walsh and taught hendrix to play with his teeth and also played hendrix' last birthday party

Walsh wasn't included on that list. Again, one guy's opinion.

@the-cysko-kid said:

The best is likely to be someone we've never heard of. This guy on acoustic impressed me big time

Several guys like Clapton, Hendrix, Townshend have said Phil Keaggy is the best they have seen. Glass Harp.

1. Montana

2. Brady

3. Unitas

4. P. Manning

5. Elway

6. Marino

7. Favre

8. Young

9. Starr

10. Staubach

11. Bradshaw

12. Brees

13. Graham

14. Aikman

15. Tarkenton

16. Warner

17. Rodgers

18. Baugh

19. Kelly

20. Fouts

21. Moon

22. Tittle

23. Namath

24. Stabler

25. E. Manning

26. Bob Griese

27. Van Brocklin

28. Jurgenson

29. Luckman

30. Blanda

31. Roethlisberger

32. Dawson

33. A. Manning

34. Herber

35. Layne

36. Simms

37. Plunkett

38. Bledsoe

39. Theisman

40. Meredith

41. Lamonica

42. Esiason

43. Anderson (Ken)

44. Gabriel

45. Cunningham

46. Kosar

47. McNair

48. McNabb

49. Vick

50.........You choose

Some candidates: Collins, Kreig, Everett, Hart, DeBerg, Hadl, Brunell, Snead, Ferguson, Brodie, Plummer, Kitna, Palmer, Brad Johnson, Charley Johnson, Gannon, Jaworski, George, Grogan, Harbaugh, O'Brien, Kramer, Romo, Culpepper, Bartkowski, Beurlein, Sipe, Lomax, Parilli, White, Jack Kemp, Morrall, Cutler, Dilfer, Rote, Wade, Pastorini, Rypien, Bert Jones, McMahon, Doug Williams, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelsen, Majkowski, Waterfield, Friedman, Parker, Driscoll, Clark

Italics means current HOF members.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

I didn't see either Vai or Satriani listed in Rolling Stone's Top 100. Of course I think the list was the choice of one particular RS writer....so it may be just one opinion.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Randy Rhodes was very talented but he wouldn't even sniff the top five in my mind. Steve vai and satriani are gifted as well but their music kind of sucks.

Hey! Something we totally agree on muscially Lol.

I just picked Rhodes because he could do the technical playing that petrricui and the others you mention do. But he made great riffs and just plain great music He didn't need to noddle around the entire song to make it awesome. Shit they play crazy train at every damn football game.

@usfbrown said:

Randy Rhodes? The late and great original guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne?!?!

Not someone I would put on any greatest list. I will have to see what others think.

I have done so. I consulted Rolling Stone Magazine who ranked the Top 100 guitarists of all time.

Here are the Top 25:

1. Hendrix

2. Duane Allman

3. BB King

4. Clapton

5. Robert Johnson

6. Chuck Berry

7. Stevie Ray Vaughn

8. Ry Cooder

9. Jimmy Page

10. Keith Richards

11. Kirk Hammett

12. Kur Cobain

13. Jerry Garcia

14. Jeff Beck

15. Santana

16. Johnny Ramone

17. Jack White

18. John Frusciante

19. Richard Thompson

20. James Burton (session player)

21. George Harrison

22. Mike Bloomfield

23. Warren Haynes (Allman Bros.)

24. The Edge

25. Freddy King

a few others in the top 50:

28. Stephen Stills

31. Dick Dale

37. Bo Diddley

39. Brian May

40. John Fogerty

42. Robert Fripp

44. Scotty Moore (Elvis's guitarist)

45. Zappa

46. Les Paul

48. Joe Perry

50. Pete Townshend

Randy Rhoads was rated 85th between Eddie Cochrane and Joan Jett.

Malmsteen didn't make top 100

@the-gipper said:

I guess you are right...seeing that I never heard of Rhodes or Malmsteen.

Some people say the best guitarist was Carl Perkins....try that out for a generational thing.

On the QB thing....you WILL have older gents fight you to the death if you leave out the names of Luckman/Baugh/Graham from any discussion of the greatest QB of all time.

And you have young people today who put Montana, Bradshaw, Fouts, etc. in the same league with Luckman and Baugh. Old guys they never saw play. To them the 5 greatest QBs of all time are Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre and whoever.

Randy Rhodes? The late and great original guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne?!?!

@usfbrown said:

Best of all time is heavily influenced by what generation your grew up in and who you saw first hand. It's kinda like asking who was the best guitarist of all time, Hendrix because of his creativity and unsually playing style. Rhodes because his superb combination of classical runs, heavy riffs, and great solos? Malmsteen because of his fast noodling?

With different criteria, you get a different answer.

I guess you are right...seeing that I never heard of Rhodes or Malmsteen.

Some people say the best guitarist was Carl Perkins....try that out for a generational thing.

On the QB thing....you WILL have older gents fight you to the death if you leave out the names of Luckman/Baugh/Graham from any discussion of the greatest QB of all time.

And you have young people today who put Montana, Bradshaw, Fouts, etc. in the same league with Luckman and Baugh. Old guys they never saw play. To them the 5 greatest QBs of all time are Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre and whoever.

@the-gipper said:

What criteria would apply to best all time? If it is passes/completions/yards/TDs then Favre outshines everyone.

If it is titles....Otto Graham leads the list with 7. Bart Starr has 5. Montana/Bradshaw have 4. Several have 3...including Brady. Brady has lost a couple, so have others. If he makes it that would give him 6 title game appearances....most in the so called Super Bowl era....but it would only tie him with Starr for title game appearances.

OG had 11 of those. Some of the other old timers like Baugh and Luckman may have had 4 titles and a number of title game appearances. I would have to check.

However you rank it I think he is no doubt in the Top 5 of all time. The man is a bit of a machine.

Best of all time is heavily influenced by what generation your grew up in and who you saw first hand. It's kinda like asking who was the best guitarist of all time, Hendrix because of his creativity and unsually playing style. Rhodes because his superb combination of classical runs, heavy riffs, and great solos? Malmsteen because of his fast noodling?

With different criteria, you get a different answer.

@the-cysko-kid said:

If the patriots win the super bowl this year there's a strong case to be made for Brady as best of all time.

What criteria would apply to best all time? If it is passes/completions/yards/TDs then Favre outshines everyone.

If it is titles....Otto Graham leads the list with 7. Bart Starr has 5. Montana/Bradshaw have 4. Several have 3...including Brady. Brady has lost a couple, so have others. If he makes it that would give him 6 title game appearances....most in the so called Super Bowl era....but it would only tie him with Starr for title game appearances.

OG had 11 of those. Some of the other old timers like Baugh and Luckman may have had 4 titles and a number of title game appearances. I would have to check.

However you rank it I think he is no doubt in the Top 5 of all time. The man is a bit of a machine.

Zombo

@rich4eagle said:

Zombo nailed it give him credit for being right once in a lifetime

This wasn't really supposed to be a trivia game, or even a "choose the best" game. I was simply giving a list of various QB that wore the various numbers.

Zombo said:

The topic was just touched on elsewhere. Who is/are the best by each number worn on their back? Here is a list. Please augment:

1 Warren Moon

Moon

2 Doug Flutie? Tim Couch?

Matt Ryan. Unless we are counting Canada. Forgot about him. (on the other hand, the source I looked up for this may have been a few years old and Ryan may not have been on the radar then.)

3 Darryl Lamonica, Bobby Hebert, now BW3 Brandon Weeden

Lamonica

4 Bret Favre, Jim Harbaugh

Really? You got somebody else?

5 Donovan McNabb, Kerry Collins

McNabb

6 Marc Wilson?

Cutler ditto above re Ryan

7 John Elway, Joe Theisman, Ben Roethlisberger, Bert Jones, Boomer Esiason, Mike Vick, Dan Pastorini

Elway

8 Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Archie Manning

Young

9 Sonny Jurgenson, Jim McMahon, Steve McNair, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Tony Romo

Jurgenson

10 Fran Tarkenton, Eli Manning

Tarkenton

11 Norm Van Brocklin, Phil Simms, Danny White, Joe Kapp, Drew Bledsoe

Van Brocklin

12 Tom Brady, John Brodie, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath, Bob Griese

Brady

13 Dan Marino, Kurt Warner

Marino

14 Otto Graham, Dan Fouts, YA Tittle

Graham

15 Bart Starr, Jack Kemp, Earl Morral

Starr

16 Joe Montana, George Blanda, Jim Plunkett, Len Dawson

Montana

17 Don Meredith, Brian Sipe, Billy Kilmer

Phillip Rivers

18 Peyton Manning, Roman Gabriel

Manning

19 Johnny Unitas, Bernie Kosar

Unitas

Please feel free to add to this list.

#21 John Hadl

We could give 14 to Fouts and let Otto wear his ol' #60

Both noted.

1 Warren Moon

Moon

2 Doug Flutie? Tim Couch?

Matt Ryan. Unless we are counting Canada.

3 Darryl Lamonica, Bobby Hebert, now BW3 Brandon Weeden

Lamonica

4 Bret Favre, Jim Harbaugh

Really?

5 Donovan McNabb, Kerry Collins

McNabb

6 Marc Wilson?

Cutler

7 John Elway, Joe Theisman, Ben Roethlisberger, Bert Jones, Boomer Esiason, Mike Vick, Dan Pastorini

Elway

8 Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Archie Manning

Young

9 Sonny Jurgenson, Jim McMahon, Steve McNair, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Tony Romo

Jurgenson

10 Fran Tarkenton, Eli Manning

Tarkenton

11 Norm Van Brocklin, Phil Simms, Danny White, Joe Kapp, Drew Bledsoe

Van Brocklin

12 Tom Brady, John Brodie, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath, Bob Griese

Brady

13 Dan Marino, Kurt Warner

Marino

14 Otto Graham, Dan Fouts, YA Tittle

Graham

15 Bart Starr, Jack Kemp, Earl Morral

Starr

16 Joe Montana, George Blanda, Jim Plunkett, Len Dawson

Montana

17 Don Meredith, Brian Sipe, Billy Kilmer

Phillip Rivers

18 Peyton Manning, Roman Gabriel

Manning

19 Johnny Unitas, Bernie Kosar

Unitas

Please feel free to add to this list.

#21 John Hadl

We could give 14 to Fouts and let Otto wear his ol' #60