@miktoxic said:

well whatever you say cuz you can't stand the guy, he MIGHT be better than our 1st round pick. maybe?

dude, this ain't no beauty contest. i didn't like holmgren's pick of mccoy when it happened. look it up. i called him a pussy bitch who couldn't last in the BCS title game because of a hit in the back. screamed about HandH wasting a pick on him. BUT the kid showed me some guts playing against pittsburgh when they were actually dominate on defense, getting smacked around and pulling himself up by his shoestrings and getting back in there. can you say the same about weeds?

hell i'll even argue that we had a better team back then. playing with fire and piss vinegar. mangini had those guys playing tough. sure the record didn't show it but i'd rather watch those guys then than this lame ass excuse.

thank mike holmgren for that and every one that ever believed in that fraud.

merry fuckin christmas.

only set us back another 5 years. and what is next year, another evaluation year? for real? how many of those do we have to endure.....A FUCKING GAIN?

I totally agree that Holmgren set us back. And the main reasons were his thinking Delhomme could still play, Wallace could EVER play, and McCoy could last in this league without getting hurt.But his BIGGEST mistake was thinking Shurmer could coach in this league.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

This team has inherently more talent than Mangini's, but Mangini knew how to make football fun to watch. None of this pussy ass run, run, pass, punt bullshit.

Bring him back. With the talent on this team, we'd be contending for the AFC North title this season.

unfortunately this would never happen..

Bring him back. With the talent on this team, we'd be contending for the AFC North title this season.

@browns149 said:

NO CHANCE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you actually think Colt is a good NFL QB you know NOTHING about reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The guy sucks OUTLOUD!!!!!!!!!!!

well whatever you say cuz you can't stand the guy, he MIGHT be better than our 1st round pick. maybe?

dude, this ain't no beauty contest. i didn't like holmgren's pick of mccoy when it happened. look it up. i called him a pussy bitch who couldn't last in the BCS title game because of a hit in the back. screamed about HandH wasting a pick on him. BUT the kid showed me some guts playing against pittsburgh when they were actually dominate on defense, getting smacked around and pulling himself up by his shoestrings and getting back in there. can you say the same about weeds?

hell i'll even argue that we had a better team back then. playing with fire and piss vinegar. mangini had those guys playing tough. sure the record didn't show it but i'd rather watch those guys then than this lame ass excuse.

thank mike holmgren for that and every one that ever believed in that fraud.

merry fuckin christmas.

only set us back another 5 years. and what is next year, another evaluation year? for real? how many of those do we have to endure.....A FUCKING GAIN?

@miktoxic said:

and if he wins?? and looks good?? and shuts your pie hole??? what then??

on any given sunday. do you think dalton and the bengals suck?? what do you say about that performance?? do you ignore reality?? (just wondering).

what's your solution?? for real??

exactly.

NO CHANCE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you actually think Colt is a good NFL QB you know NOTHING about reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The guy sucks OUTLOUD!!!!!!!!!!!

@browns149 said:

I hope Colt does play in Pittsburg. Then EVERYONE will be reminded, if you were not convinced yeasterday, that HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and if he wins?? and looks good?? and shuts your pie hole??? what then??

on any given sunday. do you think dalton and the bengals suck?? what do you say about that performance?? do you ignore reality?? (just wondering).

what's your solution?? for real??

exactly.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

Yup.

Both qb's look about the same to me, except Colt can scramble, and Weeden has a much stronger arm. The results of their performances are very similar. I think, with the right coaching, either one could be productive in the NFL. The problem is this coaching staff, and the entire Holmgren plan, system, regime, ect. needs to be wiped clean from this organization, and never be mentioned again......except in discussions of root canals, hemmoroids, and similar crap. I figured from day 1 that Holmgren was a fat useless bastard, using Lerner for his retirement fund. Now that we have an owner who gives a crap about the team, things will get better. Personally, I don't care who the qb is.... I kind of think that Weeden has more potential than Colt, but build a system tailored to the qb, and we will have some success. This will be a completely different team soon, so who knows where we will be this time next year. Let's hope they don't draft another qb with the first pick in April. Go after Alex Smith in free agency, and have a real qb competition ( controversy ) in training camp. Merry Christmas...Happy Holidays...whatever...to all you miserable pricks, anyway!

@browns149 said:

Colt said he was throwing the ball into the ground ON PURPOSE. He said he did it to give the guys a break. LMFAO. WHAT A JOKE THIS TEAM IS.

I can't wait till next Monday when they get rid of this joke of a head coach

?? You want to give your guys a break, or look like shit on Sunday Ticket? If your object was to play your way out of Cleveland- I think you might just have done so.

@browns149 said:

Colt said he was throwing the ball into the ground ON PURPOSE. He said he did it to give the guys a break. LMFAO. WHAT A JOKE THIS TEAM IS.

I can't wait till next Monday when they get rid of this joke of a head coach

I would have done the same thing. There was no need for Shurmur to call pass after pass after pass when we're down by more than a score and there's that little time left. Shurmur needs to go yesterday.

I can't wait till next Monday when they get rid of this joke of a head coach

@wrrebel said:

come on, the Cheifs and the Cards do for sure!

And the Jets.

@hx214 said:

Colt McCoy injured Richardson? Funny, cause on my TV it was Mike Adams coming unblocked on the so called "prevent" defense they were running.

Pat should be fired right on the spot for leaving the teams first round draft pick/future of the team in the game during garbage time.

It was Colt that hit Richardson, not Adams.

So...yes, Colt injured Richardson.

@wrrebel said:

come on, the Cheifs and the Cards do for sure!

I think they'd rather draft their own ... or go the Alex Smith route.

Zombo

Zombo said:

No team in the NFL wishes they had either of our QBs.

Zombo

come on, the Cheifs and the Cards do for sure!

Zombo

@dab7291993 said:

Game was over before Colt came in, you're really gonna rip him?

3rd and 19, QB draw..Shurmur hates McCoy.

Shurmer hates McCoy? STFu.

@miktoxic said:

i agree with the scottsman....who gives a shit who the starting QB is?? are you ass douches serious? the browns against the broncos today looked like the ohio state university against mentor high (and believe me that would have been a better game).

yeah we can all pick sides weeds vs. mccoy etc. etc. BUT what good is that doing us? the whole thing needs to be changed up from top to bottom. yeah weeden has the stronger arm BUT he has no confidence and looks like a deer in the headlights compared to mccoy who is an ultimate football gamer playing Fball since he was 5 compared to playing softball. weeden is to kyle orton as mccoy is to nick foles.

i guess we'll see what andy reid thinks next year.

homos.

kidding. love you guys and merry xmas and happy new year.

No kidding vim tired of all these fags with man crushes on players. Merry Christmas (fags and non fags)

@rooster-dick said:

If I was Colt I would care less to even try. This organization screwed him

How? By drafting him, paying him a lot of money, and giving him two years to prove he could get the job done while running the most putrid offense I have ever seen last year.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

He's thrown 3 passes directly into the ground and Denver is playing a few backups. Please don't act like he outplayed Peyton on that drive

The McCoy homos are out in full force. I thought I saw the reincarnation of Akili Smith with all those worm burners McNoodle tossed. McCoy definitely isn't the answer- and Weeden may well not be.

Shur-loss, put the house up for sale and pack your bags- you're done.

@hx214 said:

Colt McCoy injured Richardson? Funny, cause on my TV it was Mike Adams coming unblocked on the so called "prevent" defense they were running.

Pat should be fired right on the spot for leaving the teams first round draft pick/future of the team in the game during garbage time.

I agree, but it won't happen until the regular season ends next Sunday. I also expect (at some point) to hear that Trent's "rib injury" is a lot more serious than has been reported. Shurmur has to go & it can't be too soon for me...he has NEVER had his player's backs.

Mike