@snugglybottoms said:

they would have to pay him 14 million

Check the other thread- that applies to the 2014 season. In any case, they can transition Dawson, and match any offer.

Pluses- Thad Lewis deserves a shot to challenge Weeden- two of those fumbles were not on him. One dumb int I can handle. Gets rid of the ball FAST.

Adios Patsy- nice call getting Gordon set up to get stripped- and no adjustment on two consecutive plays getting your QB killed. McCoy is gone- Lewis definitely showed enough to be #2, and may even challenge Weeden for #1.

That performance will send McCoy packing too.

If Heckert's gone too- so be it. Just bring in an upgrade- not Dumb-tardi.

@mld-woody said:

Everything posted seems to always be behind super browns tinted glasses when talking about teams/players outside the organization. Within though its just free reign on insulting any player or coach you can whether they deserve it or not. It just gets really old. We are a below average team but whenever we don't have a QB playing like Manning or a HB like Peterson etc etc that player or coach is just his awful and we need to replace him.

Like I said, it gets really old. I'm sure I'll get shit for this post but idc...

+1

Lewis looked pretty damn good, can't imagine Weeden looking any better... is that good or bad?

@medicineman said:

These refs should be killed for that bullshit

When isn't it the ref's fault?

@roach said:

Make that 3 turnovers by Pittsburgh. Where is our clutch D? Wimps.

Make that 4.

@browns149 said:

why? because we are all SO SICK AND TIRED of this crap?

Everything posted seems to always be behind super browns tinted glasses when talking about teams/players outside the organization. Within though its just free reign on insulting any player or coach you can whether they deserve it or not. It just gets really old. We are a below average team but whenever we don't have a QB playing like Manning or a HB like Peterson etc etc that player or coach is just his awful and we need to replace him.

Like I said, it gets really old. I'm sure I'll get shit for this post but idc...

@mld-woody said:

If I wasn't already a Browns fan, reading this board would make me hate Browns fans

why? because we are all SO SICK AND TIRED of this crap?

@kosar_for_president said:

I think they will franchise him one last time.

Not a chance. Once again Team MVP.

@the-italian-dawgpound said:

Travis Benjamin is an idiot.

Reminds me of Stuckey's fumble in OT against the Jets a couple years ago that cost us that game..

@roach said:

Steelers D has 2 turnovers. Game changers. Still waiting for our D to make a play. That sack was a step in the right direction.

Make that 3 turnovers by Pittsburgh. Where is our clutch D? Wimps.

@bringbackbrownie2 said:

Agreed. No kicker is that great. But why not offer him a 3 year contract for around 4 million? That seems reasonable. If Dawson rejects the offer then so be it, but I don't see why we can't offer him something other than the franchise tag..

Sounds good to me. I think he stays for that deal

@bringbackbrownie2 said:

Agreed. No kicker is that great. But why not offer him a 3 year contract for around 4 million? That seems reasonable. If Dawson rejects the offer then so be it, but I don't see why we can't offer him something other than the franchise tag..

..meaning 4 million each year for 3 years..

@browns149 said:

He's great but not $14 million great

Agreed. No kicker is that great. But why not offer him a 3 year contract for around 4 million? That seems reasonable. If Dawson rejects the offer then so be it, but I don't see why we can't offer him something other than the franchise tag..

@snugglybottoms said:

they would have to pay him 14 million

He's great but not $14 million great

@kosar_for_president said:

I think they will franchise him one last time.

they would have to pay him 14 million

@medicineman said:

Yep. Bye Phil. Thanks for the good times but see ya

I think they will franchise him one last time.

@bringbackbrownie2 said:

You're just being ridiculous. The browns don't have any defensive depth. Injuries have shown that. They are much improved from previous years. The steelers D today is hardly much better..

Steelers D has 2 turnovers. Game changers. Still waiting for our D to make a play. That sack was a step in the right direction.

@roach said:

No excuses. Every team has to deal with injuries. So far, there is only one good D on the field that I've seen today.

I hate wimpy defenses, and that's what we've got.

You're just being ridiculous. The browns don't have any defensive depth. Injuries have shown that. They are much improved from previous years. The steelers D today is hardly much better..