@legacy-fan said:

I thought about starting a thread on Kyle, but I figured it'd be best to let your panties unravel over it first.

There's nothing much to be said is there? He made a terribly stupid mistake with what were undoubtably good intentions. I hope it makes people think about supplying people with known mental issues with firearms even if they themselves are also armed. As a former airman and a fellow father I mourn his passing although I can't fathom why he thought it was a good idea.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/ron-paul-on-sniper-chris-kyle-live-by-the-sword-die-by-the-sword/2013/02/05/e7c06c1e-6fdd-11e2-ac36-3d8d9dcaa2e2_blog.html

@westside-steve said:

http://healthland.ti...ing-be-rated-r/

Absolutely. Rate them R and tax anyone who see's it. Hell, let's put GPS on cigarette packs to make sure they are not going to minors. Lets have Cigarette inspector's the can come at anytime into your home to make sure the cigarettes are not accessible to minors.

@the-cysko-kid said:

You refuse to accept any responsibility as a gun owner but expect Hollywood to give up their rights and show responsibility? Hypocrite.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/09/should-movies-with-smoking-be-rated-r/

You can't yell "fire" in a movie theater. For political argument sakes, since 'Peen is making you look like you have rocks for brains, even more than

YOU are - it's weird to have to explain this to you.

The "fire" think isn't an laughable called an "attack on the 1st Amendment". Please stop being stupid. We are trying to actually talk about this issue.

With rights come RESPONSIBILITIES. You can't yell that fire in the theater. You can't pull out a gun and wave it at people, even without firing.

You can't drive through a school zone at 100 mph. Oh, boo hoo, you think those things are some kind of attack on your rights?

Currently, you are being a fool full of hate, lashing out at an entire class of people for a tragedy. Alienating people instead of

working with people doesn't work, hate to tell ya. And your lashing out is really, honestly making you look like you are something, imho.

Better to get yerself right, get with real life, and you and your anti gun side should change it up to anti-psycho violence.

Or, you all keep going off in beligerent directions, and you are one of the major causes of that violence continuing with no LEGIT solutions coming forward.

Oh, yeah, there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE extremely gory, grtoesque and violent on TV, radio, and video games.

Perhaps you'd like to calm down, and actually THINK instead of EMOTIONALLY LOCKING IN TO LASHING OUT IRRATIONALLY.

If I have to type that again to you, ..well, I can enlarge the letters in bright colors, in bold, you know.

You don't have any kind of clue. And you don't really care for crap.

I don't mind expanded background checks, until you lefty anti gunners want

to have background checks for ...everything. Leaving an old shotgun to a trusted son or daughter.

It's none of your stupid ass business, anti gunners. So consider a moment, and look in the mirror

when you say all your stupid crap.

"Universal background" checks have lost their original meaning. Now, it's just a "foot in the door"

to leveraging any kind of attack on a class of people that aren't like you, and that you don't like.

Universal background checks, is now a gigantic diversion from any kind of genuine solution to the problem.

You lefties lost the support of the NRA and millions of Americans, because they see through your emotionalistic

garbage politics. I'm glad the NRA changed their position. Because "uniserval background checks" require

registration ! And that requires the lefty gov to know where ever single gun is, all the time! Which means, they will

tax the crap out of them, put red tape into the process of owning them, continuing to own them, and harassment like

the posting of names in a local left owned media. You are stinking up this board with your antagonistic whining. Give it a rest already.

Just once, listen to how you are not even in the common sense world.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/ex-nra-chief-explains-gun-check-shift-87059.html

Forget it, don't bother....I am out.....see you in a few months.

@ballpeen said:

I said all I need to say, deflect all you want. I am not listening until you have a clue.

So ultimately you can't defend it, is what you're saying. Did you even realize that the NRAs immediate position was to attack the first amendment?

"A government of the people for the people"

@ballpeen said:

Change the subject all you want......go away.

Start reading the provided link, then come back in a few years and talk to me. You don't even know what form of government we have, so don't begin to talk to me or others about amendments and who's shitting on what.

No answer, eh?

Start reading the provided link, then come back in a few years and talk to me. You don't even know what form of government we have, so don't begin to talk to me or others about amendments and who's shitting on what.

@ballpeen said:

Sure, he doesn't care about kids. Yep, that's got to be it.

You are a scary guy. You don't have a clue about this country. We aren't a democracy. If we were, blacks might still be slaves. Women might still not be able to vote.

We are a democratic republic of independent states if you really care to know.

Go work on that for a while.

How would you like to try and justify the NRA taking a shit on the first amendment in order to defend the second?

http://constitution.org/c5/index.php

@the-cysko-kid said:

The NRA is scum. They're a political organization bitter about their recent very expensive loss. Human life means nothing to the brass, to a piece of crap like Wayne LaPierre. He could give a shit less about American kids. This isnt about rights to them. The second amendment isn't going anywhere. This is about sticking it to the liberal commie marxists. This is a dream scenario for them. They go from huge political loser to "defender of rights"

But they overestimate their strength. The American people are sick of them. They failed to get mittens elected, and their power is waning. Sure there's plenty of loud wingnuts like cal willing to throw in with them, but the majority of people are tired of the violence.

If the American people want gun control there will be gun control. That's called democracy and its what they pretend to care about. What happens when they lose? Suddenly they don't love democracy so much anymore?

Sure, he doesn't care about kids. Yep, that's got to be it.

You are a scary guy. You don't have a clue about this country. We aren't a democracy. If we were, blacks might still be slaves. Women might still not be able to vote.

We are a democratic republic of independent states if you really care to know.

Go work on that for a while.

@heckofajobbrownie said:

The NRA now says they're even against universal background checks, a policy they were recently for. But now they don't want those changes made either.

Public support for universal background checks is extremely high, possibly even at 92 percent, per a recent CBS News/New York Times poll. Other polls have put it at 89% and 85%. It's even got strong majority support among NRA members - 75% of NRA members polled want universal background checks.

This is about as bipartisan as any issue gets. It'll be amazing if Congress can't translate that into an actual law.

Ugh. Way to go, Wayne. You dick.

But I don't think there's anything wrong with being a political organization, especially one devoted to defending Constitutional rights. The NRA and the ACLU are basically doing the same thing but with different amendments. Their supporters probably wouldn't like to admit that, but they are.

The problem with the NRA is that they've really become a front for the gun manufacturers. Their thrust doesn't seem to be to protect the 2nd Amendment so much as to sell guns, and lots of them. If you look at any public position they take, it's always consistent with telling people to buy more guns.

Obama's elected? You need to buy more guns.

Obama's re-elected? Maybe he didn't come for the guns last time, but he will now, so buy more guns.

School shooting? They're going to come for your guns, so you better buy more now.

What do we need instead? Armed guards in every school.

Or take a look at their recent reversal on background checks. They used to think that was a good idea. But hey, that would keep some people from buying more guns! So now they're not.

@heckofajobbrownie said:

The NRA now says they're even against universal background checks, a policy they were recently for. But now they don't want those changes made either.

Public support for universal background checks is extremely high, possibly even at 92 percent, per a recent CBS News/New York Times poll. Other polls have put it at 89% and 85%. It's even got strong majority support among NRA members - 75% of NRA members polled want universal background checks.

This is about as bipartisan as any issue gets. It'll be amazing if Congress can't translate that into an actual law.

The NRA is scum. They're a political organization bitter about their recent very expensive loss. Human life means nothing to the brass, to a piece of crap like Wayne LaPierre. He could give a shit less about American kids. This isnt about rights to them. The second amendment isn't going anywhere. This is about sticking it to the liberal commie marxists. This is a dream scenario for them. They go from huge political loser to "defender of rights"

But they overestimate their strength. The American people are sick of them. They failed to get mittens elected, and their power is waning. Sure there's plenty of loud wingnuts like cal willing to throw in with them, but the majority of people are tired of the violence.

If the American people want gun control there will be gun control. That's called democracy and its what they pretend to care about. What happens when they lose? Suddenly they don't love democracy so much anymore?

Public support for universal background checks is extremely high, possibly even at 92 percent, per a recent CBS News/New York Times poll. Other polls have put it at 89% and 85%. It's even got strong majority support among NRA members - 75% of NRA members polled want universal background checks.

This is about as bipartisan as any issue gets. It'll be amazing if Congress can't translate that into an actual law.