@poeticg said:

I'm sure you're selling Trent short. Be prepared to be amazed at the production he puts up when healthy. McCoy, Richardson, Gordon, Little, Cameron = Playoffs this season boys! I can't wait!

...I would have loved to add Cribbs to this list as he deserves it but it appears that he's headed to AZ...

PG, that's the ONLY reason (injury) Trent gets a mulligan on last year's performance. I said before the draft taking a RB in the top 10 was stupid- Mike Lombardi happens to agree with me, perhaps the first smart thing he's come up with. Who was the better value, Trent or Doug Martin? Doug hands down. If you look at RB stats, it's littered with guys who were drafted way lower than Trent- or even undrafted, as is the case with Arian Foster, and had better statistical seasons.

Based on last year's performance, I'm not even sure Trent is as good as Ray Rice, and I can about guarantee you he's never going to be as good as Adrian Peterson- healthy or not. If you take a RB that high, that's the standard you hold him to- multiple Pro Bowl selections. TR does have excellent field vision and moves- but I hate to tell you he's not the beast you want to make him out to be. I saw him get solo tackled- and even arm tackled a bunch of times last year- and you can't attribute all that to injury. Jim Brown he ain't. Trent's major problem of getting to the elite level of running backs is he doesn't have (and never had) the breakaway gear guys like Peterson or Barry Sanders have (had). Yeah, I DID watch some of Trent's college stuff- and he got caught from behind a couple of times- those other guys NEVER did.

I love your rah-rah attitude PG, but you have to temper your enthusiasm with an occasional dose of reality. The older you get, the more objective you get.

So- Josh Cribbs is 100% gone, McCoy is probably 75-90% gone, 25% odds Phil Dawson will be back. Richardson will have to come back 50% improved to justify his draft position. That's the cold blooded reality PG, sorry if you don't agree.

The problem is Holmgren and Heckert swung for the fences with the Richardson and Weeden picks, hoping they'd land the next Emmitt Smith and Dan Marino- they knew it was win now, or else. They might just have hit a pop fly to right field instead.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Josh Cribbs or your cat?

The NFL neutered Cribbs when they changed the kickoff rule. But they also neutered Devin Hester and every other kick returner as well.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Josh Cribbs or your cat?

Nice

@poeticg said:

...he's slowed down a lot since he was neutered.

Josh Cribbs or your cat?

@poeticg said:

...he's not that old, he's about 7 years old.

...he's slowed down a lot since he was neutered.

Zombo said:

Does anyone else feel that they know way too much about Poetic G's cat?

By the way ... if your cat is "old" ... and he was named after Josh Cribbs ... what's that say about Cribb's remaining shelf life as a kick returner?

Zombo

...he's not that old, he's about 7 years old.

By the way ... if your cat is "old" ... and he was named after Josh Cribbs ... what's that say about Cribb's remaining shelf life as a kick returner?

Zombo

@mark-o said:

Is the cat safe?

He was an old cat anyway.

@poeticg said:

I'm sure you're selling Trent short. Be prepared to be amazed at the production he puts up when healthy. McCoy, Richardson, Gordon, Little, Cameron = Playoffs this season boys! I can't wait!

...I would have loved to add Cribbs to this list as he deserves it but it appears that he's headed to AZ...

Is the cat safe?

@hoorta said:

Richardson had better run for 1,500 yards, and score 12 touchdowns while were at it.

I'm sure you're selling Trent short. Be prepared to be amazed at the production he puts up when healthy. McCoy, Richardson, Gordon, Little, Cameron = Playoffs this season boys! I can't wait!

...I would have loved to add Cribbs to this list as he deserves it but it appears that he's headed to AZ...

@mark-o said:

And without Colt McCoy....don't forget him. Not sure how the Browns or the city of Cleveland will make it through the year without St. Colt on the roster.

Richardson had better run for 1,500 yards, and score 12 touchdowns while were at it.

@browns57 said:

Watch out 72 Dolphins here come the Browns! Even without Josh Cribbs. LOL

And without Colt McCoy....don't forget him. Not sure how the Browns or the city of Cleveland will make it through the year without St. Colt on the roster.

@mark-o said:

Good plan...only one problem with it. The Browns aren't going to lose this year.

Watch out 72 Dolphins here come the Browns! Even without Josh Cribbs. LOL

@browns57 said:

You really should highlight and save that post referring to his grandma and his cat and the subsequent reply. I cannot remember laughing that hard at a post before on this board. I don't like cats but...... LOL.

Maybe we need a spot for classic posts and their replies. Good reading for after a Browns loss.

Good plan...only one problem with it. The Browns aren't going to lose this year.

@mark-o said:

i hope he comes back just so slap dick doesn't have to put his cat to sleep because he named the stupid thing after Cribbs.

However...Cribbs is done in Cleveland.

You really should highlight and save that post referring to his grandma and his cat and the subsequent reply. I cannot remember laughing that hard at a post before on this board. I don't like cats but...... LOL.

Maybe we need a spot for classic posts and their replies. Good reading for after a Browns loss.

@hoorta said:

Good Lord, if the Browns had wanted Josh back it would have happened already. When you don't even make the player an offer, it's Adios.

i hope he comes back just so slap dick doesn't have to put his cat to sleep because he named the stupid thing after Cribbs.

However...Cribbs is done in Cleveland.

@poeticg said:

Cribbs STILL hasn't signed with another team! Keeping the HOPE ALIVE that he RETURNS HOME to CLEVELAND!

Cribbs still has tons left in the tank and I'd love to see him get to 10 returns in his career, as a Brown.

Make it happen Lombardi, pleeease.

Good Lord, if the Browns had wanted Josh back it would have happened already. When you don't even make the player an offer, it's Adios.

I think if Colt McCoy himself stumbled across this site he would tell Po G to just Stop.

Z

@mark-o said:

He's not coming back....get over it slapdick...

Sure thing you all seeing, all knowing, future telling hemorriod.

Cribbs still has tons left in the tank and I'd love to see him get to 10 returns in his career, as a Brown.

Make it happen Lombardi, pleeease.

@hoorta said:

OK, Gordon had an outstanding ypc. What I worry about is turning Benjamin into a KR, he doesn't have the frame to absorb kill shots.

Definetly. I am NOT for Benjamin being the replacement of Cribbs. Ghoolie likes to say how Cribbs is "one shot" away from a vegetable. He has been out returner for how long? Benjamin would be a vegetable after ONE good shot. Benjamin has place as a WR, not as a ST returner. Cribbs has his place, as one of the best STers in the game.