@harry-buffalo said:

Your best bet is going to be watching Oakland team highlight tapes and finding plays he is in. Otherwise your just going to be finding a lot of Dez Bryant videos.

I might look into making a highlight tape for our new FA today and tomorrow, kind of bored right now. I'll get back to you if I end up taking the time to do it.

That would be really awesome.

@die-hard-brownie said:

Has anyone found any good tape/videos of Bryant on the field? I haven't been able to find much at all and would love to get a first hand look at him. Thanks!

Your best bet is going to be watching Oakland team highlight tapes and finding plays he is in. Otherwise your just going to be finding a lot of Dez Bryant videos.

I might look into making a highlight tape for our new FA today and tomorrow, kind of bored right now. I'll get back to you if I end up taking the time to do it.

Chief executive officer Joe Banner dismissed rumblings that the Browns are interested in trading defensive linemen Phil Taylor or Ahtyba Rubin. There was speculation they could be involved in a deal for Patriots backup Ryan Mallett. “Our purpose has been to put together a really strong unit, have some depth so we can rotate and so if we have any injuries the line will still be one of the primary assets of the team," Banner said, via The Akron Beacon Journal. "That’s what we feel like we’re achieving. We’re not looking to be trading anybody.”

How?

1) The dynamic Horton scheme necessitates LB and DE who can swap to the other position on any given down. It also requires depth in each position, as you are constantly having to adapt and move differently based on your formational position.

2) We play in the AFC North. This isn't a division of pussy-domes and seventy degree weather. If we can dominate the line and the box, even an average secondary will allow this defense to take us places

3) Yes, help is needed at CB. But, CB is an area that very easily addressed in the draft.

@badnewsbrowns said:

In Bryants press conference yesterday Banner said something along the line of "we won't be trading any D-Lineman" .

Thank God!

We are going to rock the AFC North.

Z

i mean we grab some good FAs within 48 hours of the opening bell and now that we have them signed (giving us starters and depth) fans now all of a sudden want to trade other players away to fullfill their arm chair GMs fantasy?

GTFO!

of course the FO will entertain trade offers BUT at what cost? are we gonna trade rubin who is arguably the 2nd best DT on the team? for who or what? on first thought i say keep everybody and weed the weak out in training camp.

would you trade rubin straight up for mallet? ok. maybe. only if there is a replacement in the draft sitting there when we pick. but that's not the point. now we have resources that we've needed for years and when we finally get them you want to break up the team.

c'mon man.

Zombo said:

Billy Winn may be the most over-adored reserve since Ben Gay.

Zombo

Kelly Holcomb is immortal!

@unsympathetic said:

You do not know that. Nobody knows that. You are making an assumption. You could very well be correct, but as of today you are making an assumption.

Winn was not starting at the end of last season - Hughes was, and if we had the same defense next season with the same coordinator, the other DE starter opposite Sheard was going to be.. Hughes, not Winn.

Billy Winn may be the most over-adored reserve since Ben Gay.

Zombo

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I said he could be a starter, which he can be.

You do not know that. Nobody knows that. You are making an assumption. You could very well be correct, but as of today you are making an assumption.

Winn was not starting at the end of last season - Hughes was, and if we had the same defense next season with the same coordinator, the other DE starter opposite Sheard was going to be.. Hughes, not Winn.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

You do realize Kruger and Sheard will both rotate in at DE, right? Kruger plays with his hand in the dirt about a quarter of the time.

That's Taylor, Rubin, Bryant, Kruger, Sheard, Winn and Hughes rotating at 3 spots.

Any one of those players, excluding Hughes, can start for many teams in the NFL.

You do realize that a guy lined up at 3-4 OLB CAN put his hand down in the dirt, don't you? Or that we WILL be running a few 4-3 formations as well?

I mean what do you think is going to happen if we pushed Kruger and Sheard down into the 3-4 DE spot? Run the defense with 9 guys that play? We have 3 DL spots, 3 with tested starting talent, 3 with tested reserve talent. We are not going to be cutting people loose. Don't believe me? Listen to Banners interview from yesterday.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

You do realize Kruger and Sheard will both rotate in at DE, right? Kruger plays with his hand in the dirt about a quarter of the time.

That's Taylor, Rubin, Bryant, Kruger, Sheard, Winn and Hughes rotating at 3 spots.

Any one of those players, excluding Hughes, can start for many teams in the NFL.

And we should keep them all. If Sheard and Kruger are also to play LB, then those 7 players would be rotating at 4 spots, not 3.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Gip, you're right. How could I and every coach/exec/coordinator be so blind?

Schemes are useless. Lets line 11 players up wherever they want. After all, it's just tackling a person with a ball.

Your ignorance of the sport is astounding.

You show me any team that runs a 5-3 base defense or a 46 defense and I'll show you a 0 win team.

The 1985 Bears ran the 46 defense. They went 15-1 and are considered one of the best teams in history.

Because of the players they had on that team, they could come back today and run the same defense and be very successful. Or, they could run the 3-4 and also be successful.

So, maybe here is where we differ: Apparently, you believe success is ALL about the scheme.

I say that success all about the quality of the players and the coaching. Hordes of coaches have tried to duplicate the LeBeau scheme...but none of them have been as successful because they don't teach it as well.

The scheme a team runs is a minor factor in success.

And my further point is that it is fucking absurd that a well paid professional football defensive player could not adapt to a different scheme.

@beefjerky said:

Phil Taylor is listed at 6'3 335, and 6'4 295, I would rather have more size at that position to collapse the pocket and let the LBs get sacks. Winn can be a rotational player I'm sure, but I can't fathom why some of you want Winn in over Taylor.

I sure don't. What some guys aren't getting is:

1) Bryant, Taylor and Rubin won't be playing every snap on defense.

2) Horton won't strictly be running a 3-4. Gee, maybe Rubin AND Taylor will be the DTs, Winn and Bryant DEs.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I never said he was great. I said he could be a starter, which he can be.

Unless we fill a couple more holes, I'm not sure the Browns are a kingdom I would want to inherit.

And Banner said he's okay with the DL depth.

Exactly, I'm not saying we should cut him or anything, cause we need him. He will just be used in the same compacity as he was last season, which isn't a bad thing. He could be a starter, but I'm happy we got someone we know will be a starter.

@harry-buffalo said:

No, my point is that you don't blindly name a 6th round pick great after 1 year. People are already talking like he is the second coming of Christ. We don't know how good he can be as a starter. He did good as a rotation guy last year, I hope he does good again as one this year, and I hope he turns into a great player... but I haven't seen enough of him to hand him the keys to the kingdom like everyone else wants to do.

I never said he was great. I said he could be a starter, which he can be.

Unless we fill a couple more holes, I'm not sure the Browns are a kingdom I would want to inherit.

And Banner said he's okay with the DL depth.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

So was Tom Brady, what the fuck is your point?

6th round players can't be good?

No, my point is that you don't blindly name a 6th round pick great after 1 year. People are already talking like he is the second coming of Christ. We don't know how good he can be as a starter. He did good as a rotation guy last year, I hope he does good again as one this year, and I hope he turns into a great player... but I haven't seen enough of him to hand him the keys to the kingdom like everyone else wants to do.

@harry-buffalo said:

That's funny because regardless of where they had him graded, he was still picked in the 6th.

So was Tom Brady, what the fuck is your point?

6th round players can't be good?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Kiper and McShay both had him as a third round prospect, so Im not the only one.

That's funny because regardless of where they had him graded, he was still picked in the 6th.

Zombo said:

Yes, I realize that, and it's five positions because Sheard and Kruger will be playing LB the majority of the time.

Billy Winn cannot start for many teams. Billy Winn is a guy we picked up in the 6th round that will help out in the rotation.

You are getting kind of "Poetic G" about Billy Winn.

Zombo

Kiper and McShay both had him as a third round prospect, so Im not the only one.