@kosar_for_president said:

What is this O Line talk. As a group this is a top 10, O line in the NFL, at least at the end of the season.

In pass protection it's arguably the best, or at least top 3. In run blocking though it's not on the same level.

@gftchris said:

I'd say the player that would make the biggest impact and still represent anything approaching value would be Chance Warmack at number 6. I'd still be annoyed if that did happen though - if we're going offense, as Harry says, trade back some distance.

What is this O Line talk. As a group this is a top 10, O line in the NFL, at least at the end of the season.

How far would the Browns be willing to trade down . I'm thinking no more then 5 spots . At the other end the 68th should be moved up to mid Thirties .

Off coarse a trade would change that , added value .

Here's a chart This scenario was common in 2009 and 2010. It happened 30 times in the first four rounds. A team was willing to move down 9 slots on average. The ‘relative value’ below is the net gain in the order of all compensatory picks. So for example, New England moved back 2 places in round 1 in 2010 and gained an additional pick that was 143 slots from the end of the draft. If a team traded 2 picks for 2 picks, then I subtracted all the relative orders to get a net ‘relative value’ for the trade:

Value

per slot moved back Change in draft order Relative value Team moving down

72 -2 143 CHI

72 -2 143 NE

35 -3 106 NE

34 -3 103 OAK

33 -2 66 OAK

33 -4 131 PHI

33 -2 65 CLE

31 -3 94 NE

27 -7 189 OAK

19 -12 232 PHI

19 -12 224 SF

19 -4 74 MIN

18 -5 91 MIA

17 -15 262 NE

17 -12 204 CLE

15 -6 92 PHI

15 -11 167 NE

15 -11 163 HOU

13 -11 141 DET

13 -18 228 BAL

12 -9 112 HOU

11 -7 77 CAL

10 -3 29 NE

9 -15 134 PHI

8 -19 151 CHI

8 -7 55 AZ

6 -24 146 DAL

5 -12 58 CAR

4 -14 57 BAL

3 -15 48 PIT

The value also in not reflective of of the actual spot . We in Cleveland know the #1 spot 2 and 3 are risky and team needs must be considered .

@mark-o said:

I'm no draft expert, but from what I've heard and read I don't think theres a guy at #6 that fits your description.

It's a defense heavy draft at the top and everything else I've heard is that there's really no difference between the guy who is picked #5 and the guy picked #25.

None of us are draft experts, though it seems that among the so called experts certain people seem to do well...and others not so well. E.g: Honestly, by the record, I would much rather have Ozzie Newsome doing the picking for me than Mike Lombardi.

By the way....but are you gonna sign on for a team?

@mark-o said:

I get where you're coming from, I just don't know who that guy is. There just isn't an offensive guy out there. There's no running backs to speak of. No one is really all that excited about the QB's other than Smith and he's not getting the same excitement that any of the first rounders last year were getting at this same time.

True, but in the draft there are always picks made that come completely out of left field.

And just for the record, I would prefer trade back some to get any of the offensive players I've mentioned rather than at #6. I just initially laid it out that way to make it easier.

Gordon, Little are our obvious top 2. Then from there I see question marks. Benjamin can definitely be a weapon, smaller guy still a lot of unknowns but definitely fast as hell. Cooper and norwood are pretty much the same player to me, One of them needs to step up they're game and separate themselves from the other, I haven't heard anything about whether or not mo mass will be resigned, and that's it I believe. I just think it would be a good idea to add one more body to that position.

It's a defense heavy draft at the top and everything else I've heard is that there's really no difference between the guy who is picked #5 and the guy picked #25.