Ranking The Browns Qbs

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:39:37 GMT

hoorta — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:39:37 GMT

@mark-o said:

How did the great Spurgeon Wynn not make this list?

Yeah, the great Spurgeon the sturgeon. The guy the Browns picked instead of Tom Brady.

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:29:48 GMT

The Gipper — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:29:48 GMT

My top 5:

Otto Graham

Frank Ryan

Bill Nelsen

Brian Sipe

Bernie Kosar

These were all fairly big time postseason winners for the Browns, except Sipe, and Sipe was Sipe.

My bottom 5:

Seneca Wallace

Todd Philcox

Jeff Garcia

Paul McDonald

Mike Phipps

Mike Phipps probably wasn't as bad as we thought at the time, or as some others, but he had the unfortunate situation of: A. Being traded for for Paul Warfield, B. Being a very high draft pick, and C. Following up on the Graham/Ryan/Nelsen winning tradition and being the QB of some not very good Browns teams in the early to mid 70s.

Philcox should have never been allowed off the bench...that was BBs choice, but he wasn't any good and he became BBs sacrificial lamb.

Paul McDonald had the misfortune of following the popular Brian Sipe, and we wanted him to be the lefthanded Brian Sipe, but he wasn't.

Garcia was a square peg in a round hole here.

Wallace was a whiner and a sniper and thought more of himself than anyone else did...and he really sucked pretty badly.

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:19:10 GMT

The Gipper — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:19:10 GMT

@mark-o said:

How did the great Spurgeon Wynn not make this list?

Because I goofed and forgot to type his name. I will re-edit to put him in. FYI, he was 0-1 in his career starts.

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:44:16 GMT

Mark O — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:44:16 GMT

How did the great Spurgeon Wynn not make this list?

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:31:32 GMT

The Gipper — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:31:32 GMT

Here are the winning percentages in those games started for each QB. I am not including anyone who had less than 5 starts (I excluded ties when computing win pct.):

Otto Graham .859

Tommy O'Connell .769

Frank Ryan .703

Bill Nelsen .680

Milt Plum .673

Gary Danielson .625

Vinny Testaverde .516

Bernie Kosar .510

Brian Sipe .508

Mike Tomczak .500

Mike Phipps .489

Derek Anderson .470

George Ratterman .400

Todd Philcox .400

Paul McDonald .381

Tim Couch .373

Trent Dilfer .364

Brandon Weeden .333

Kelly Holcom .333

Charlie Frye .315

Jeff Garcia .300

Mike Pagel .285

Colt McCoy .285

Brady Quinn .250

Seneca Wallace .143

Doug Pederson .125

Reply to Ranking The Browns Qbs on Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:25:44 GMT

Zombo — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:25:44 GMT

Here is the list of every QB who has ever started a game for the Cleveland Browns. Rank whom you think are the top 5 and the bottom 5. I list them by number of career starts for the Browns:

Otto Graham 125 (includes AAFC)

Brian Sipe 112

Bernie Kosar 105

Frank Ryan 76

Tim Couch 59

Bill Nelsen 51

Milt Plum 51

Mike Phipps 51

Derek Anderson 34

Vinny Testaverde 31

Paul McDonald 21

Colt McCoy 21

Charlie Frye 19

Brandon Weeden 15

Tommy O'Connell 14

Brady Quinn 12

Kelly Holcomb 12

Trent Dilfer 11

Jim Ninowski 11

Jeff Garcia 10

Gary Danielson 8

Mike Tomczak 8

Doug Pederson 8

Mike Pagel 7

Seneca Wallace 7

George Ratterman 5

Todd Philcox 5

David Mays 4

Jake Delhomme 4

Eric Zeier 4

Luke McCown 4

Mark Rypien 4

Babe Parilli 3

Ken Dorsey 3

Don Strock 2

Ty Detmer 2

Jeff Christenson 2

Terry Luck 1

Thad Lewis 1

Gary Lane 1

Will Cureton 1

Don Gault 1

Bruce Gradkowski 1

Len Dawson 1

Italics: Hall of Fame. Note that includes only the first and last players on this list.

Top Five

Graham

Ryan

Kosar

Sipe

Plum

Bottom Five

Dorsey

Pederson

Philcox

Quinn

McDonald

Favorite (since 1970)

Sipe

Kosar

Nelsen

Couch

Danielson/Holcomb/Strock

Least Favorite (since 1970)

Garcia

Dilfer

Philcox

McDonald

Quinn