<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Next Cam Newton?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>CLEVELAND, Ohio -- While watching film of EJ Manuel during a private workout Saturday at Florida State, Browns coach Rob Chudzinski turned to Manuel and said, "Man, that reminds me of somebody I used to coach."</p>

<p>That somebody was Panthers quarterback Cam Newton, whom Chudzinski coached as a rookie in 2011 and again in 2012. But Manuel, one of the players the Browns are considering with their No. 6 pick, didn't have to ask Chudzinski who he was talking about.</p>

<p>"He already brought up Cam when I was up in Cleveland on Monday," Manuel, a dual-threat quarterback who went 25-6 at Florida State, told The Plain Dealer after the workout. "I think coach Chudzinski sees a lot of Cam Newton in me, so that's kind of in my favor as far as being a guy that's very similar to Cam's playing style."</p>

<p>Manuel, who's been projected to go anywhere from the top five in the draft to the second or third round, has also taken some of the same pre-draft beating that his good friend Newton -- the No. 1 overall pick in 2011 -- endured.</p>

<p>"They said Cam was a third-round pick and he went first overall," said Manuel. "I'm sure a lot of people doubted him just like they're still doubting me. Coach Chudzinski did a great job with Cam and you saw how well he transitioned to the pros. He was Rookie of the Year and a Pro Bowler. If I get drafted by Cleveland, I know coach Chudzinski and (offensive coordinator) Norv Turner would do a great job of getting me ready to play."</p>

<p>Manuel, who threw 41 TDs against only 18 interceptions in his two seasons as the fulltime starter, got a great vibe from the Browns after they worked him out Saturday and hosted him for a pre-draft visit on Monday. In addition to Chudzinski and Turner, Turner's son Scott, the Browns receivers coach, also attended Saturday's workout Saturday.</p>

<p>"There's no telling what these teams are really thinking, but I think it's good that Cleveland wanted to come work me out five days before the draft," said Manuel. "I left Cleveland on Monday and they were here on Saturday. The turnaround was quick, and when they left today, I felt like I made a good impression."</p>

<p>Manuel has also received a good look from other teams picking high, including the Jaguars at No. 2, the Eagles at No. 4, the Bills at No. 8 and the Jets at No. 9. Eagles coach Chip Kelly, who figures to run a read-option, recruited Manuel for Oregon and worked him out privately last month.</p>

<p>"Those are most of the teams that have worked me out and brought their head coaches, GMs, quarterback coaches, the whole crew," said Manuel. "After the way some of these workouts have gone, I think I'll go fairly high. I don't know about the top 10, but I expect to go in the first round. Some of the teams might consider me (a top five pick). We'll have to see how it all plays out."</p>

<p>In addition to the Newton comparisons from Chudzinski, Manuel got some great feedback from Turner, who will double as the quarterbacks coach.</p>

<p>"He had a lot of good things to say about my game and what I can do moving forward," said Manuel. "They know I can throw the football, but they wanted to see how I'd react to coach Turner's coaching, my footwork, how the ball comes out of my hand, everything."</p>

<p>When Manuel left Cleveland on Monday, the coaches packed him up with a little offensive homework for the weekend.</p>

<p>"I had to write a few things down for them and I think they wanted to see if I put in the time to study it and I did well," he said. "I wasn't perfect, but they also wanted to see how you react when you're wrong -- if you figure it out and correct yourself."</p>

<p>During his pre-draft visit, Manuel ran into quarterback Brandon Weeden, whom he first met at an Elite 11 quarterback camp in California two years ago.</p>

<p>"I'm good friends with Brandon," Manuel said. "The possibility of the Browns drafting me didn't really come up. If I happen to get drafted by the Browns, I'll obviously want to compete and he knows that. But it was moreso just saying hello and letting him know it was good to see him."</p>

<p>Manuel, who feels he's the top quarterback in the draft, anticipates starting somewhere in 2013.</p>

<p>"Any opportunity I go into, I think I'll have an opportunity to start," he said. "If a team drafts you early, they expect you to come in and battle at that position, so I think I'd do really well moving into the Browns organization. At the same time I think I could still learn from Brandon and Jason (Campbell)."</p>

<p>Despite the comparisons to Newton, Manuel (6-4, 237) patterns his game after Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger, which should please Browns fans.</p>

<p>"I know I'm very similar to Cam in size, and speed and things like that, but I usually watch film on Big Ben," he said. "I'm a big, strong, durable quarterback. That's what I love about Big Ben. He doesn't run to run. He runs to try to get open to throw the ball. A lot of people may say I'm a runner, but anytime I'm scrambling around, I'm looking for a receiver and trying to get the ball into their hands."</p>

<p>NFL Network's Mike Mayock has been so impressed with Manuel that he could see him going No. 4 to the Eagles.</p>

<p>"(Manuel is) as raw as can be," Mayock said on a conference call this week. "He has a big arm and he's very athletic. That's why I moved him up to my second quarterback. Because his upside is better than all the other quarterbacks in the draft, except for Geno."</p>

<p>He added: "I think Chudzinski and Chip (Kelly) very much have their eyes open as to quarterbacks who can throw the ball, because that's critical. But also who can hurt you in the run game?"</p>

<p>ESPN's Jon Gruden said this week: "I like EJ a lot because I think you can call just about any scheme you want to call. He's a presence inside the 10-yard line much like Cam Newton in Carolina is. I've seen him run various option plays and we know that's certainly a major point of emphasis in the NFL right now. . . . I think he has a tremendous skill set that allows him to do a lot of different things. If you're with a creative offensive coach, look out. He could be a good player."</p>

<p>Manuel stressed that there's at least one comparison with Newton that's dead on.</p>

<p>"Cam wanted to be great," he said. "And I want to be great too. I don't want to just get into the NFL. I want to make a career out of it and make an impact in the league."</p>

<p>Has Chudzinski found his next Cam?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/25907/the-next-cam-newton</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 07:32:44 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/25907.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:10:47 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:23:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334703">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I would think number 1 has to be the consistency has to be there all season.  Win or lose, he can still put up decent numbers each week.  He played some good games and played some atrocious games.  He has to show he can play at a high level each week.  I wouldn't think it's so much as a number of wins as it is how he looks playing the position.</p>
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<p>Here's to hoping we can some wins with him looking good. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334707</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334707</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cambridgeho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:23:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:02:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cambridgeho" aria-label="Profile: cambridgeho">@<bdi>cambridgeho</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334702">said</a>:</p><div><p>  I am wondering on what kind of stat line will make or break Weeden's season. Is it going to be a well he did better than last year or does he have to throw for 25-30 tds and 10 ints and get 10 wins. With the schedule we have this year, there is a real possibility that he has a great year.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>I would think number 1 has to be the consistency has to be there all season.  Win or lose, he can still put up decent numbers each week.  He played some good games and played some atrocious games.  He has to show he can play at a high level each week.  I wouldn't think it's so much as a number of wins as it is how he looks playing the position.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334703</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334703</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:02:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:48:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mark-o" aria-label="Profile: mark-o">@<bdi>mark-o</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334684">said</a>:</p><div>


<p>I think that is correct for this year.   It certainly looks like Weeden will get one year with offensive coaches who want to build  the offense around his strengths.  If he can't get it done this year, he's done and we draft someone early next season and start over.  God willing...Weeden will be the guy and we don't need a QB for 10 more years.</p>
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<p>  I am wondering on what kind of stat line will make or break Weeden's season. Is it going to be a well he did better than last year or does he have to throw for 25-30 tds and 10 ints and get 10 wins. With the schedule we have this year, there is a real possibility that he has a great year.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334702</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334702</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cambridgeho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:48:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:52:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/poeticg" aria-label="Profile: poeticg">@<bdi>poeticg</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334602">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Weeden is the QB, he's 30 this year. The only way to recoup what we put into him are to either play him or trade him for a first rounder. Seems as how we're not going to get a first rounder for him we are going to play him.</p>

<p>I'm about 90% sure we don't even look at QBs until the 5th round at the earliest.</p>
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<p>I think that is correct for this year.   It certainly looks like Weeden will get one year with offensive coaches who want to build  the offense around his strengths.  If he can't get it done this year, he's done and we draft someone early next season and start over.  God willing...Weeden will be the guy and we don't need a QB for 10 more years.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334684</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334684</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark O]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:52:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:46:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I've watched this guy for 5 yrs(I guess I should say 3yr since that's when he became a starter) at FSU and he is going fall flat on his face.  He is NOT a good QB.  He may be big and throw the ball a long way, but wait till he plays against competition.   He's terrible!</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334641</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334641</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dawg08]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:46:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:32:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334568">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>That doesn't make it true for the whole. Defense doesn't win championships. Offense doesn't win championships. Special teams don't win championships.</p>

<p>Good football teams win championships. There have been just as many teams win because of great offense as there have teams win because of defense. Some could argue that the Saints win was because if special teams.</p>

<p>It's all about the matchup. You can build an all world defense and it won't mean jack shit if you're facing a team with another great defense. Then it will just come down to whoever makes the first mistake.</p>

<p>The teams to win the Super Bowl are the teams that play their game and play it well.</p>


<p>We need a franchise QB regardless.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Yes, I am saying that we need a complete, full, balanced team.  And yes, we need a franchise QB.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">All I am saying is that this team in the past has foolishly popped for the cherry on top before  having the the ice cream (offensive line, defensive front 7) in the bowl, and before having its whipped cream applied (defensive backfield) or its hot fudge (WR/TE corps) hot, or having applied the nuts (RB/FB).  </span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">No, they went straight for the cherry....and the cherry got buried under melted ice cream, cold fudge, and silly sprinkles instead of decent nuts.</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334607</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334607</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:32:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:09:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Weeden is the QB, he's 30 this year. The only way to recoup what we put into him are to either play him or trade him for a first rounder. Seems as how we're not going to get a first rounder for him we are going to play him.</p>

<p>I'm about 90% sure we don't even look at QBs until the 5th round at the earliest.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334602</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334602</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[PoeticG]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:09:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:54:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334556">said</a>:</p>
<p>I<span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)"> am not saying that BR didn't turn into a quality QB. I am saying that for that entire 2005 season...he was an average QB....and that team won its title on defense and rushing.  BR managed the situation...but based on what the rest of that team did, yes, Charlie Batch could have done about the same thing that particular year.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Defense won that title....just like defense won the Ravens title in 2000. Just like defense won the Bucs title in 2002.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">That's a fact. That's football.</span></p>
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<p>That doesn't make it true for the whole. Defense doesn't win championships. Offense doesn't win championships. Special teams don't win championships.</p>

<p>Good football teams win championships. There have been just as many teams win because of great offense as there have teams win because of defense. Some could argue that the Saints win was because if special teams.</p>

<p>It's all about the matchup. You can build an all world defense and it won't mean jack shit if you're facing a team with another great defense. Then it will just come down to whoever makes the first mistake. </p>

<p>The teams to win the Super Bowl are the teams that play their game and play it well. </p>


<p>We need a franchise QB regardless.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334568</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334568</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:54:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:30:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334553">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>The difference is that Roethlisberger has a bad game and we remember it for years, because its an aberration.</p>

<p>McCoy/Weeden/etc. have a good game, and we remember that for years...for the same reason.</p>


<p>That's where the problem lies.</p>
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<p>I<span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)"> am not saying that BR didn't turn into a quality QB. I am saying that for that entire 2005 season...he was an average QB....and that team won its title on defense and rushing.  BR managed the situation...but based on what the rest of that team did, yes, Charlie Batch could have done about the same thing that particular year.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Defense won that title....just like defense won the Ravens title in 2000. Just like defense won the Bucs title in 2002.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">That's a fact. That's football.</span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334556</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334556</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:30:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:17:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334547">said</a>:</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Were you alive when that was played? Or are you thinking of 2008? </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Because those Steelers won in 2005 in spite of BR, not because of him.  It is documented that he had THE worst game statistically of ANY Super Bowl winning QB in history.  And I don't know, but this compilation has him ranked as the #30 QB in the league that year:</span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/passing.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/passing.htm</a></p>
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<p>The difference is that Roethlisberger has a bad game and we remember it for years, because its an aberration.</p>

<p>McCoy/Weeden/etc. have a good game, and we remember that for years...for the same reason.</p>


<p>That's where the problem lies.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334553</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334553</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:17:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:00:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/browns57" aria-label="Profile: browns57">@<bdi>browns57</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334531">said</a>:</p><div><p>This is a really dumb statement. Even though there defense was good and their running game was good there is NO WAY they win that title without BR. And no way they finish 15-1 the season prior. Ben even in the early years added another dimension to the offense.</p></div></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Were you alive when that was played? Or are you thinking of 2008? </span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34)">Because those Steelers won in 2005 in spite of BR, not because of him.  It is documented that he had THE worst game statistically of ANY Super Bowl winning QB in history.  And I don't know, but this compilation has him ranked as the #30 QB in the league that year:</span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/passing.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/passing.htm</a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334547</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334547</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:00:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:38:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/the-gipper" aria-label="Profile: the-gipper">@<bdi>the-gipper</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334453">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>Do you think the 2004 team with BR as a rookie that went 15-1  and the title the following year in 2005 with BR as a sophomore QB won  because BR was so good? Frak no.  Tommy Maddox or Charlie Batch could have probably led those teams.</p>

<p>2008 was a different matter...BR was the major component in that teams success....but not the earlier years.</p>

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<p>This is a really dumb statement. Even though there defense was good and their running game was good there is NO WAY they win that title without BR. And no way they finish 15-1 the season prior. Ben even in the early years added another dimension to the offense.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334531</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334531</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns57]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:38:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:14:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I think Rhodes will be gone. As another person who watched E.J. play the last 2 seasons, will give some input. For all the weapons he had around him, he was not that great. Im not saying he will be bad, but I think there is just to much hype around the guy. If he sits for 2 years at best, and can get a grasp of the Offense he very well could be ok, but he will not be the option QB that Newton is. Also, who even says the Chud is going to want an option type Qb, Turner has never had one to coach, so Im pretty sure they want a cannon of an arm and a smart QB. You either have mobility or you dont. Its not required to be a mobile QB, look at the greats in the League now, Brees, The Mannings, Brady. I know you cant compare future hall of famers to what we have but there is a pattern of greatness to them. Great leaders and perfectionists to their offensive schemes. We need to build our Defense, something that is feared, shit something that you draft in fantasy football.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334521</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334521</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cambridgeho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:14:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:25:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334458">said</a>:</p>
<p><strong>hey TCPO i like what i see with manuel, but that's not the point. we have a QB that we reached for in the first round last year with an 'nfl' arm. manuel might be better, but we're not picking him (or as i should say...we better not pick him).</strong></p>

<p><strong>holmgren fucked us good with his wonderful knowledge of QBs. we HAVE to see what weeden can do this year or campbell considering which QB the coaches think we have a better chance to win with.</strong></p>

<p><strong>everyone that has half a brain knows we have to address our defensive backfield first and foremost. CB and S should be our first 2 picks, hands down. if we trade down we can still get an elite corner and with the trade down pick a safety in the 2nd. now if ej manuel is there in the 4th round (cuz we should be picking OL in the 3rd) then by all means pick him.</strong></p>

<p><strong>all these QBs in this draft are getting overrated and over hyped and most if were in a good class of a QB draft wouldn't even be considered until the 3rd round.</strong></p>
</blockquote>I understand what you're saying. It would be a waste, given what happened in last years draft.

<p>What I am saying is that, if Manuel (or any other QB) gives us a better chance to win than the guys left on the board, it would be dumb not to pick him. </p>

<p>Just because we picked a QB last season (who many, including you IIRC, claimed to be a terrible wasted pick) doesn't mean we don't pick a QB this year, if the latter makes us a better team.</p>

<p>It's going to come down to whether or not Chud thinks that  Manuel (or anyone else) is heads and shoulders above Weeden. Weeden's draft status will have nothing to do with it whatsoever.</p>

<p>This is a new regime, looking to do whatever gives us the best chance to win from now moving forward.</p>

<p>Every year we seem to say that no QB in this year's class can hold a jock of those from the year before. Every year, there's been a surprise. </p>

<p>When all is said and done, we're going to have two-three very solid starting QB's come from this year's draft. This isn't RG3/Luck by any means. But that doesn't mean these guys won't be good.</p>


<p>Personally, I'd love to see us trade down twice in the first round and pick up either two second rounders or a second, third and fourth. Then I'd love to see us take Rhodes around the 20th pick, and Swearinger or Rambo in the 2nd.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334506</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334506</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:25:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:03:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>hey TCPO i like what i see with manuel, but that's not the point. we have a QB that we reached for in the first round last year with an 'nfl' arm. manuel might be better, but we're not picking him (or as i should say...we better not pick him).</strong></p>

<p><strong>holmgren fucked us good with his wonderful knowledge of QBs. we HAVE to see what weeden can do this year or campbell considering which QB the coaches think we have a better chance to win with.</strong></p>

<p><strong>everyone that has half a brain knows we have to address our defensive backfield first and foremost. CB and S should be our first 2 picks, hands down. if we trade down we can still get an elite corner and with the trade down pick a safety in the 2nd. now if ej manuel is there in the 4th round (cuz we should be picking OL in the 3rd) then by all means pick him.</strong></p>

<p><strong>all these QBs in this draft are getting overrated and over hyped and most if were in a good class of a QB draft wouldn't even be considered until the 3rd round.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334458</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334458</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:03:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:55:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jrb12711" aria-label="Profile: jrb12711">@<bdi>jrb12711</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334425">said</a>:</p><div><p>I'm telling you, this guy has been hyped up solely because of size and arm strength. I usually don't speak on players but as stated I've seen the guy play several times live. He's just not that good overall. He makes terrible decisions, puts short/medium range passes all over the place, and really underwhelms on uneven deep ball passes. I'm not saying Weeden is the guy but he isn't either. </p></div></blockquote>
<p>It's funny because if you were making this post about Weeden you'd be spot on as well. </p>

<p>Everyone was big on his size/arm strength as well and we saw all year how Weeden was inconsistent on every type of pass. Most of the time when it comes to QB prospects not named John Elway or Andrew Luck draft hype will be based off of the tools that they possess not necessarily what they are good/bad at passing wise because everyone thinks they can fix a QB's problems. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334455</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334455</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dab7291993]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:55:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:49:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I hate to keep saying this....but I think the Browns need to follow the Pittsburgh Steelers model of the early to mid-2000s...i.e. you plug in the "franchise QB" as the LAST component of your championship team.</p>
<p>The 2005 Steeler team that won the title was built first and foremost upon their defense....then their running game and offensive line, then their receiving corps...then finally with a QB.</p>

<p>Do you think the 2004 team with BR as a rookie that went 15-1  and the title the following year in 2005 with BR as a sophomore QB won  because BR was so good? Frak no.  Tommy Maddox or Charlie Batch could have probably led those teams.</p>

<p>2008 was a different matter...BR was the major component in that teams success....but not the earlier years.</p>

<p>Right here, right now the Browns need to build their defense and offensive lines and run game and WR/TE corps.</p>
<p>If BW3 becomes successful with those top components around him...wonderful.</p>
<p>If not, then he can become Tommy Maddox or Charlie Batch....and in a year or two maybe the Browns will find their version of BR.</p>
<p>Browns need a couple of killer DBs, maybe another LB, maybe an OG...and depth all along the way. We are invested with 2 QBs now, leave them be and build the rest of the team up. When its winning time...and that may be very soon...the Browns will be in position to plug in a QB.</p>
<p>I want my Sundae built first with the ice cream, hot fudge, whipped cream and nuts put on first.....then we can put the cherry on top.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334453</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334453</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:49:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:17:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm telling you, this guy has been hyped up solely because of size and arm strength. I usually don't speak on players but as stated I've seen the guy play several times live. He's just not that good overall. He makes terrible decisions, puts short/medium range passes all over the place, and really underwhelms on uneven deep ball passes. I'm not saying Weeden is the guy but he isn't either. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334425</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334425</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jrb12711]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:17:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:03:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334377">said</a>:</p>
<p>He still accumulated 3 TD's that game, which is more than any QB we currently have can say.</p>


<p>At this point, I just want a guy that can score. If it Weeden, great. If its Campbell, great. If its Manuel, Smith, Bray, Nassib, etc...great.</p>

<p>Let's just generate some motherfucking offense already.</p>
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<p>And 3 ints. I know one game doesn't define a player but he's not worth a high draft pick. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334423</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334423</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[USFBrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:03:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:42:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334417">said</a>:</p>

<p><strong>can we call you PoG2?</strong></p>

<p><strong>uggh. fuck every QB in this draft.</strong></p>
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<p>You sure could. After all, nothing else you've ever said has been based on any sort of logical reasoning.</p>

<p>Why change now?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334422</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334422</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Couch Pulls Out]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:42:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:42:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tim-couch-pulls-out" aria-label="Profile: tim-couch-pulls-out">@<bdi>tim-couch-pulls-out</bdi></a> <a href="/post/334377">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>He still accumulated 3 TD's that game, which is more than any QB we currently have can say.</p>


<p>At this point, I just want a guy that can score. If it Weeden, great. If its Campbell, great. If its Manuel, Smith, Bray, Nassib, etc...great.</p>

<p>Let's just generate some motherfucking offense already.</p>
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<p><strong>can we call you PoG2?</strong></p>

<p><strong>uggh. fuck every QB in this draft.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334417</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334417</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:42:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:48:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>No way we pass on a CB in the 1st. If we do trade down and get a 2nd E.J. will be gone by then. We need our CB and FS before we even think of a QB this year. Im am thinking a QB in the 4th, maybe Glennon from nc state,<a href="http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/mike-glennon?id=2539275" rel="external nofollow">http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/mike-glennon?id=2539275</a>,.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334414</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334414</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cambridgeho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:48:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:44:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I want to know how people can say anyone who was down on Weeden made a mistake?</p>

<p>People are acting like this guy solidified himself as our franchise QB. </p>

<p>If we take Manuel at 6, it's not the ideal pick but honestly I wouldn't be mad. I'd rather take Milliner or a pass rusher. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334413</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334413</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dab7291993]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:44:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Next Cam Newton? on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:15:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I know I have said it before, but I wouldn't be suprised at all if we take a qb high in this draft. QB is the most important position on the team. The Browns have spent a whole lot of time doing their due dilligence on these top Qb's. When was the last time you remember our front office doing this much work evaluating QB's? If they really feel like one of them better than Weeden then they will take them. Turner knows Qb's better than any of us do, and Chud would likely defer to his opinion or at least give it serious weight. That is just logical. Those of you who were good at Geometry should get that. If you were good at Algebra you likely never will. </p>

<p>Those who say no way, or they would be DONE brace yourself just in case they love one of these guys. I personally cannot see how taking one of these guys is a bad move if they work out. I am going to trust our FO and coaches to work together as a team (like they said) to build this team this year and if they screw it up then lets all be pissed. I have seen nothing thus far that makes me think that they will screw up. Cam Newton was a good pick, Rivers was a pretty good pick. Drew Brees (OC-Turner year he was drafted). Coached up Troy Aikman in Dallas. And While Ken Dorsey didn't work out in the pro's Chud coached him to a pretty damn good college career in Miami. So why all the hubub about them being stupid if they do this.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/334409</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/334409</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Browns57]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:15:05 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>