@poeticg said:

This regime wants to move on from Cribbs regardless of how good he may or may not be.

@poeticg said:

I saw an article the other day saying that there's a chance that Cribbs might resign back here in Cleveland! I think my heart actually skipped a beat, we need the Cribby Cribbster to take it to the Hizzy every now and again! Yeah, yeah- Benjamin has the potential to take it up the field but he's only done it once, he's not proven and Cribbs was on the field at the time... distraction anyone? I guess I'd just feel better if Cribbs were still here, he'll still be a threat for a couple of years at least, he might be slowing down but still.

Go away

@poeticg said:

Not might...He has slowed down.

@the-gipper said:

I think because perhaps he is under contract to another team?

@cdl15 said:

I think because perhaps he is under contract to another team?

@slowburn said:

Heck yea, I am all in for hanging out and drinking some beers and maybe a few shots..

What could possibley go wrong?

I live in central OH. I used to rep for company in Storm Mt that manufactured and marketed bacterial enzymes for waste water treatment plants.

Next time you head home to Sandusky lets hook up for some fishing and/or some partying. I can hang with the best of them. lol

Or, if I get to the city anytime soon we can hang.

@slowburn said:

live like 5 miles south from the tappan zee bridge on the westchester side of the hudson. why wanna grab a beer sometime? i've got friends that live in depsosit, ny and another next to the outlet store in the 84/17 exchange. anywhere close? sounds like the adirondacks to me, which is beautiful country but a long ride for me.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

No problem. Yeah, I read mine again too... if it came off as "assholish" I didn't mean it that way.

@miktoxic said:

Rick definitely had some skills. Charlie Murphy said Rick used to bitch slap Prince every chance he had.

Mik, I may have asked you before, but do you live near Storm Mountain, NY?

late

@poeticg said:

TCPO... weed is NOT more addictive than cigarettes. I don't know where you got this information but it's just not true. I can speak from experience bro.

Go back and read what I said again, idiot.

EDIT: it seems I'm the idiot. I meant to say that its easier to quit smoking weed than it is cigarettes, and he still couldn't do that.

My fault.

@poeticg said:

throwin on some 'RICK JAMES......... bitches' as i type.

gonna be a nice easzy nite (if ya know what i mean).

edit: and for those not familiar...check out the old 'soul alive' clip:

still a testament to how white people can't dance and how bad old lip synch shows used to be.

i didn't know it was possible to have dreads, gerri curls and bangs all at the same time???????

@hoorta said:

very very true. and this is my point THOUGH. my father was a hard core alcoholic who once he found out he had lung cancer turned to other medication, opiates etc. but mostly MJ to ease the pain from chemo. you would think that the way i am now is because of some gene passed down from generation to generation BUT the fact of the matter is me and my twin brother were both adopted. so there IS NO genealogical passing of the tides cancer alcoholism etc.

it was the 20 years of upbringing from such people that made me turn to a nice cold cocktail after selling a 5M pitch to marlboro and any other clients we had at the time. instant gratification is what i gleened from the whole middle-class sandusky ohio upbringing. that and be a shitty dad. the same way kids are brought up to be racists or whatever societal ailment you can tag on them.

you have to make your own way in this world and to people like mathieu, who i wished we had picked, have a long road ahead of them trying to right the wrongs of what they've seen, lived and thought to be ok.

@hoorta said:

Not that I have any first hand experience but you can become pretty dope sick from coming off a cocaine bender. js

@hoorta said:

Nothing like Mary Jane to bring the folks together!

@poeticg said:

For once we agree. Weed and cocaine may be psychologically addictive, but they're not physically addictive- you quit those, you don't go through withdrawal. (Heavy) boozing, cigarettes (nicotine), or opiates ARE physically addictive- do those for any length of time, and you WILL have withdrawal symptoms.

One book from way back- Licit and Illicit Drugs- put the addiction potential of cigarettes right behind heroin.

& Unsympathetic- I wouldn't push your luck. Yes there is such a thing as an addictive personality, but just because you don't have it, doesn't mean you can't eventually get hooked on something. Family history has more than a little to do with it, don't remember the exact odds, but if one parent is an alcoholic, your odds of becoming one go up. If both parents are your odds go WAY up.

The description of "very addictive" only describes the attachment level for people who get addicted. I've smoked, drank, but I'm not addicted.. not because I'm magical or the drug isn't addictive, but because it's just not going to happen to me. Or, PG, it seems, to you. It's people who actually need 12-step who are the issue.

@poeticg said:

only if you don't inhale

@miktoxic said:

Difference there Mik is, the majority of Taylor's problems happened AFTER he was out of the league, not before. Was he a coke head during his playing days? Sure. However, he was going against teams like the Steelers who were totally 'roided up.

@miktoxic said:

hey, i agree. hell i hate kids. hell i hate everyone.

to not know and try to confine your time and all will to playing football with all that god-given talent must piss a lot of people off who let's say by your standards just missed it by just a noodle hair, even from those looking from it from afar. someone should have stepped in, maybe someone like a father, and guided him in a different direction. taught him how to give and gain respect. do the right thing in life. obviously that didn't happen.

without his athletic ability he could have easily ended up as a chalk-lined figure on the show 'the first 48'.

who knows? i don't. as said before though it's irrelevant if the guy who plays for your team is a beast and wins you some championships. does the giant fan really give a rat's ass that LT got busted soliciting a prostitute and smoking crack with a minor 20 years after the fact? doubt it. hell, everyone knows he's a scumbag but yet consider him the best DE/OLB to ever play the game.

you'd have to ask people that used to watch jim brown play. or maybe even those who watched babe ruth.

it's sure easy to put on a crown of thorns even when the blood is running in your eyes.

The difference between LT and Mathieu is that Taylor was a prototypical LB and the second pick in the draft in an era when drug use wasn't tested and scrutinized nearly as much. Furthermore, LT had no character concerns going into the league. Part of the reason the Giants liked him was because of his clean rap sheet.

Mathieu, on the other hand, is already on a short leash, being that he's undersized and has a laundry list of failed drug tests. He's proven that he's mentally weak and, my guess is, easily influenced. What's going to happen when he gets a little money in his pocket or a top ten play on ESPN? What will he do when people start wearing "Mathieu" jerseys around Arizona?

You can lift weights until the cows come home but if you're mentally weak, you'll never get stronger.

Like slowburn pointed out, NFL players are almost contractually required to pop pills. There's a seedy underbelly to the NFL. Players have to take painkillers by way of pills, needles and nostrils just so they don't get passed by.

How is the kid who's already shown on multiple occasions that he's mentally weak going to be able to cope? How do we know he won't develop an addiction to the painkillers?

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

hey, i agree. hell i hate kids. hell i hate everyone.

to not know and try to confine your time and all will to playing football with all that god-given talent must piss a lot of people off who let's say by your standards just missed it by just a noodle hair, even from those looking from it from afar. someone should have stepped in, maybe someone like a father, and guided him in a different direction. taught him how to give and gain respect. do the right thing in life. obviously that didn't happen.

without his athletic ability he could have easily ended up as a chalk-lined figure on the show 'the first 48'.

who knows? i don't. as said before though it's irrelevant if the guy who plays for your team is a beast and wins you some championships. does the giant fan really give a rat's ass that LT got busted soliciting a prostitute and smoking crack with a minor 20 years after the fact? doubt it. hell, everyone knows he's a scumbag but yet consider him the best DE/OLB to ever play the game.

you'd have to ask people that used to watch jim brown play. or maybe even those who watched babe ruth.

it's sure easy to put on a crown of thorns even when the blood is running in your eyes.