@miktoxic said:

Browns won't get any where near 9-7 this season. With their depthless secondary they will be lucky to win 6 games. But as the Browns lose game after game after game due to the secondary, Lombardi can sit there knowing he has those extra picks for 2014!

if not, i'll have lost a couple of ducketts and be looking forward to another complete overhaul that seems to be happening WAAAAAAAAYYY TO FUUUUUUUUUCKIN often in the browns franchise.

Skeptical2013 said:

Who do you think I learned profanity from? Hint: A DNA test would show that we are very close relatives.

Zombo said:

I completely agree. The disappointment at losing the super bowl is probably greater than losing the AFC championship game, but at least we would've gotten to the big game a few times.

@cuwoohio said:

Yes, winning the AFC is a championship, just like winning the division is a championship. Of course the whole goal is to win the Super Bowl, but I'd rather be heartbroken AFC Champions than heartbroken AFC runner ups.

Zombo

--or heartbroken 5 and fucking 11

@the-gipper said:

No, but as a father I'd just like to see adults set a proper example for kids who read this board.

Skeptical2013 said:

Actually, obviously it did add something. It got your attention, clearly.

What are you, a prude?

@the-gipper said:

Your descriptions are fine. I don't think the profanity adds anything, though.

Skeptical2013 said:

Tougher, not necessarily humbler.

It by no means makes me feel "humble" if by that you mean quiescent, meek, subservient, timid, deferential.

FUCK all that. Quite the opposite. I think wrathful, Proud, vain, combative, assertive, defiant....would be more descriptive.

Don't you?

@stewy said:

Yep, for them they have enjoyed pure luck.

Skeptical2013 said:

yea, humility is supposed to be a virtue but I wouldn't mind experiencing some "pride before the fall"

@miktoxic said:

it's all about the rings, baby...if u are in second place you are in last place/

@miktoxic said:

Yeah, I agree there is plenty of blame to go around. But we cannot forget that Modell brought a lot on himself because he was such a bad business manager.

@stewy said:

Wow. Hadn't thought about that. But wer're all tougher, humbler people for having gone through all this, right?!

@stewy said:

ouch.

i won't say from '64 til now there were no good browns or cavs or indians teams........just never been able to bring the trophy home.

Living the dream I guess...

Skeptical2013 said:

because our ownership over the last 3 decades don't know shit about the hiring and firing of key FO personnel.

hell modell hired belichick to fire him and move the team to baltimore. but at least he saw something in ozzie as a GM. everyone else since then and the big fart cleveland laid for not paying for a new stadium is the ultimate curse. mayor white should be tarred and feathered (if he's still alive. maybe him and marion barry are smokin crack with some hookers as we speak).

@slowburn said:

Yes, very well written story and I love the photo that went with it. Many stories being written these days about the Cleveland sports fans. Really bothersome this week is that NFL Network is featuring its Greatest Games Ever segments and they keep showing the Fumble game. They just rub salt into the wound.

What's amazing, though, are the tens of thousands of Browns fans around the country who stick by the team. I live in Florida and went to a big flea market for an hour or two on Saturday wearing my Browns T-shirt. It was simply amazing all the people who came up to me to share the pain, swap stories or offer support. My wife kept saying, "This is amazing -- your Browns shirt is like a magnet."

Just once before I kick off I'd love to see this team reach the Super Bowl. Kinda like Pops, the coach in the Natural, I don't need the Browns to win the Super Bowl (although that would be nice), I'd just like to see them get there so that all of us can finally smile and bask in the sunshine with our team a little bit.

Why are the gods of football so much against us?

i gotta print some shirts with that. classic. give ya 5%.