@rooster-dick said:

Yah, just wanted to bump this.... guy is an animal

Zombo said:

Like I said, he was so disagreeable that even if you agreed with him, you were compelled to disagree with him, it seemed.

@the-gipper said:

What's funny is that when we changed his name he sent a big long letter to Admin complaining that you, me and Harry Buffalo were mean to him and that someone changed his name.

We gave it the utmost consideration. And then we changed it again from Assclown to Assmunch.

Zombo

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I think he had to be a POS liberal.

No, he was a communist/fascist/nudist like I said.

@assmunch said:

Uh, I'm talking about Shamarko Thomas, Pittsburgh's Lombardi draft choice, not Philip Thomas. Shamarko Thomas ran a 4.37 and 4.42 40 at the combine and did 28 reps. Don't know where you got a 4.6 for Gipson, but his Pro Day time was 4.61, slow, but that's about what Kenny Vaccaro ran at the Combine. Also, Thomas did a vertical leap of of over 40 vs. 35 for Gipson. Thomas can really jump.

Re Gipson and cannon fodder, actually, he was a pretty good player in college, he just didn't stand out extraordinarily. When one looks at all the elements surroudning Gipson, I just don't expect him to be an outstanding free ssafety, and I think the Browns need one to capitalize and take advante of hte increased presure on the QB.

Speaking of pressure on the QB, did you know that the Browns last year had the same number of sacks as Horton's ballyhooed pressure defense in Arizona?

And speaking of idiocy, I see your immature friends keep changing my board name. I'm sure it's lots of laughs for their 5 year old minds. In places like Egypt, China, Iran and Syria tyranny is alive and well as a criminal element tries to maintain control and stifle opposing views. On this board, if you are not part of the rah-rah crowd clearly you are treated as evil. But free speech is an American right and Browns fans have a right to express their frustations with management when they feel they are doing wrong and to offer suggestions and warnings.

And if your friends don't stop it, here's a potential storyline for the print and TV news media in Cleveland: "Parents in northeast Ohio are always concenred about what their kids read on the internet. Now we learn that something as innocent looking as a Cleveland Browns chat board, one that is affilaited with the Browns, is filled with vulgarities, suggestive photos and other questionable content that your kids may be viewing. Stay tuned for the story at 6 PM."

Keep it up and you may not have a chat board much longer.

Time to resurrect the cheerleader thread for old time sake!

@thenew23 said:

Welnl that makes 2 1st rounders, and 4 second rounders starting on D... if that's the case...

Your numbers are good either way, I just see them using him like niners used Aldon Smith in 11. I think Gross I reiterated that today.

Z

Zombo said:

Well that makes 2 1st rounders, and 4 second rounders starting on D... if that's the case...

Z

Starting Offense - 4 1st rounders (Weeden, Richardson ,Thomas, Mack), 3 2nd rounders (Little, Gordon, Schwartz), 1 3rd rounder (Greco), 1 4th rounder (Cameron), and 1 5th rounder (Pinkston)... not sure who our 11th starter will be, could be 4th round Marecic at FB or UDFA Bess at WR

Starting Defense - 3 1st rounders (Haden, Taylor, Mingo), 3 2nd rounders (Ward, DQ, Kruger), 1 3rd rounder (McFadden), 1 6th rounder (Rubin), 3 UDFAs (Gipson, Robertson, Bryant)

Depth - 1 1st rounder (Campbell), 4 2nd rounders (Hardesty, BJax, Groves, Sheard), 5 3rd rounders (Owens, Hughes, Cousins, Lauvao, Butler), 2 4th rounders (Benjamin, JMJ)

23-25 guys will make this team who were drafted in the first 3 rounds...That's one way of looking at the talent on this team...

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Vaguely funny, you POS conservative!!

Where do you get off talking so bad about Cameron...? He's only going into his 3rd season, and hasn't even had the opportunity to start. Take a look, maybe a reminder...

Not exactly stellar I understand, but look at all the garbage routes he was running. He was never put in a position to use all his natural athleticism to make plays, but I think you'll see that change. Argue if you'd like, but I think Cameron is in store for a major breakout season...

Davis will be used as a TE2, mostly blocking and in the redzone, and Barnidge is a TE3. Not sure how much more we need...

what more could a man ask for?

btw, I feel like a real perv already amassing one warning point.

@admin-0 said:

I guess the guy wanted some kind of Orwellian Society....but he wanted to play the role of Big Brother and try to bring the thought police down here.

Yes, the guy made points......incessantly, infernally, eternally, continuously, repeatedly.

Sure, fine, we don't know if the Browns DBs are going to be all that great.....but he felt that he KNEW that they weren't. And everybody elses team was definitely better than the Browns. Well, sure, they have been for a few years....but maybe not now.

State your piece, make your argument, and move on. Some will agree with you, others won't. TCPO agreed with him, OK....but he wasn't totally obnixious about it to the point of anhialation (sp?)

Honestly, my opinion wasn't that I disagreed with him.....but that he was so disagreeable that you felt the necessity to disagree with him.

@assmunch said:

And speaking of idiocy, I see your immature friends keep changing my board name. I'm sure it's lots of laughs for their 5 year old minds. In places like Egypt, China, Iran and Syria tyranny is alive and well as a criminal element tries to maintain control and stifle opposing views. On this board, if you are not part of the rah-rah crowd clearly you are treated as evil. But free speech is an American right and Browns fans have a right to express their frustations with management when they feel they are doing wrong and to offer suggestions and warnings.

And if your friends don't stop it, here's a potential storyline for the print and TV news media in Cleveland: "Parents in northeast Ohio are always concenred about what their kids read on the internet. Now we learn that something as innocent looking as a Cleveland Browns chat board, one that is affilaited with the Browns, is filled with vulgarities, suggestive photos and other questionable content that your kids may be viewing. Stay tuned for the story at 6 PM."

Keep it up and you may not have a chat board much longer.

And thus ended the Skeptical2013/Assclown/SkepticalOne/Assmunch era.

We'll run the site any damn way we seem fit.

I actually wanted to keep this guy around because, despite his negativity, he was spurring some off-season conversation.

But ... you threaten the site ... you bought your walking papers.

See ya, Asshole.

Admin

@the-gipper said:

Uh, I'm talking about Shamarko Thomas, Pittsburgh's Lombardi draft choice, not Philip Thomas. Shamarko Thomas ran a 4.37 and 4.42 40 at the combine and did 28 reps. Don't know where you got a 4.6 for Gipson, but his Pro Day time was 4.61, slow, but that's about what Kenny Vaccaro ran at the Combine. Also, Thomas did a vertical leap of of over 40 vs. 35 for Gipson. Thomas can really jump.

Re Gipson and cannon fodder, actually, he was a pretty good player in college, he just didn't stand out extraordinarily. When one looks at all the elements surroudning Gipson, I just don't expect him to be an outstanding free ssafety, and I think the Browns need one to capitalize and take advante of hte increased presure on the QB.

Speaking of pressure on the QB, did you know that the Browns last year had the same number of sacks as Horton's ballyhooed pressure defense in Arizona?

And speaking of idiocy, I see your immature friends keep changing my board name. I'm sure it's lots of laughs for their 5 year old minds. In places like Egypt, China, Iran and Syria tyranny is alive and well as a criminal element tries to maintain control and stifle opposing views. On this board, if you are not part of the rah-rah crowd clearly you are treated as evil. But free speech is an American right and Browns fans have a right to express their frustations with management when they feel they are doing wrong and to offer suggestions and warnings.

And if your friends don't stop it, here's a potential storyline for the print and TV news media in Cleveland: "Parents in northeast Ohio are always concenred about what their kids read on the internet. Now we learn that something as innocent looking as a Cleveland Browns chat board, one that is affilaited with the Browns, is filled with vulgarities, suggestive photos and other questionable content that your kids may be viewing. Stay tuned for the story at 6 PM."

Keep it up and you may not have a chat board much longer.

Keep in mind that Gipson has won over two different defensive regimes. He's a find. Again, that and $4 will get you a Venti drip but it's not something you just throw away or even bench.

You want a FS who can cover. Ask Ronde Barber, who converted from CB in his last year and made #55 on the top 100 before retiring (and becoming ineligible). Both Gipson and Bademosi can play corner... doubt that's true of Shamarko.

He is taller than both at 6'0" Gipson is 5'11, Thomas 5'9"

Because of his achilles injury he didn't have combine or pro day workouts, but his previous numbers from the prior year were:

40 time: 4.46, which is the same as Thomas, a bit faster than Gipson

Bench press 19 reps, which was less than both Thomas and Gipson

The NFL.com report stated however that the key to his game, when he played, was his intinctiveness and versatility.

In fact, because of his injury, they...and he...didn't think he would be drafted.

@assmunch said:

I double checked, because I knew I could not trust your stats.

Thomas ran a 4.45 40, Gipson ran a 4.6. Thomas did bench press 28 reps, which is very high for a DB....but Gipson pressed 23 reps, which is also high.

Thomas had a little better vertical leap.

And, FYI, you are full of shit if you don't think Thomas is to be expected to be the eventual starter. Point of fact is NFL.com has him as a strong safety, not a FS. So those two don't even play the same position. Thus....he was taken by the Steelers specifically to be the replacement for Polamalu. He is expected in the future to be a key component of the Steelers defense.

Gipson wasn't expected to be anything but training camp fodder. He got his position with no expectations whatsoever.

Now, if he turns out not to be FS starting material, so be it. Someone better will have to come along and beat him out...and it would merely be what was expected all along. So he is already far "ahead of the game".

Thomas, on the other hand, sits in the same position as McFadden....he is required by virtue of the investment made in him to be good.

@the-gipper said:

Gipson is counted on to be the STARTER. Thomas is not.

Thomas ran about 4.4 in the 40, Gipson about a 5.2

Thomas did 28 reps in the bench press at the Combine, more than Ziggy Ansah and Kevin Minter, two high front 7 defense draft pics. I doubt Gipson was anywhere close to that.

Mingo refused to lift in his pro day or at the Combine, and i am sure if he did, it would be much less than thomas.