with a kickoff after 6 PM, beer sales are shut down at the start of the second half. I understand the goal of the policy, but it seems to

defeat it's intended purpose. Fans now must pack on their drink in either 3 or two quarters depending on the kickoff time. The policy

encourages two-fisted drinking and increased drunkenness. I'm confident the average fan is mature enough to pace their

consumption and enjoy beverage refreshment throughout the entire game. We sure as fuck don't need these intrusive, big brother, the-

fans-are-too-stupid-to-take-care-of-themselves regulations that deny those 4th quarter victory toasts (what few there have been). Slowburn

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For two hundred million, surely they can start offering root beer. Hell, even if they stopped offering it after halftime, I'd be a happy camper.

All the stuff they offer, and root beer isn't available. What the....? ....dammit.

what the hell right? it would only need be a couple years service to deliver something so glorious to be enjoyed for generations ahead. !!

a guy can dream.

hoorta, you were right about the water. went a couple miles to "ooh ahhh" and promptly marched back up and booked the plane/slot canyon Jeep/raft slow float for the next morning. very cool.

although i may have enjoyed the earthships in Taos nearly as much. i see huge sustainable design collaborations between MR's work and my own, pairing his enormous accomplishments with passive solar and thermal masswith my own success with strawbale.

who knows, maybe someday instead of millions of tons of concrete we'll see someone out there adapting low tech concepts for use in gigantic venues like stadiums someday.

@sisky-fringo said:

I've put in my wish list too- like a wider concourse behind both stands. All I'm saying is $200 million to put a retractable roof on the stadium is fiscal fantasy land.

And if you're hiking the Canyon, enjoy the trip- been there, done that. Bring as much fluids as you can carry. Absolutely amazing after you hike 2,500' into the lower canyon that the Touristas don't get to see from the road. The Colorado river cut another 1\2 mile down through solid granite.

first you put on your nico patch as soon as you walk in and in your coat pocket have a fake hose running from your side to a 'colostomy bag', which is really filled with draft beer.

just don't get caught on the jumbotron sucking from the hose spilling all over your face. could be pretty embarrassing.

with a kickoff after 6 PM, beer sales are shut down at the start of the second half. I understand the goal of the policy, but it seems to

defeat it's intended purpose. Fans now must pack on their drink in either 3 or two quarters depending on the kickoff time. The policy

encourages two-fisted drinking and increased drunkenness. I'm confident the average fan is mature enough to pace their

consumption and enjoy beverage refreshment throughout the entire game. We sure as fuck don't need these intrusive, big brother, the-

fans-are-too-stupid-to-take-care-of-themselves regulations that deny those 4th quarter victory toasts (what few there have been).

had a set of bose 501s set up in 'our' room in 'my' area kickin out some serious tunes onto the german roadways from the barracks where i was at in wurzburo.

meanwhile my 'roomate' had the ARs. i came in drunk and fell into his left speaker stand while he was playing aja from steely dan for his nerdy friends. well anyways since i damaged his shit i said i just trade him even up for the ARs and bose.

guess who made out like a banit? he couldn't have been happier since they said white is right.

as a once and on again musician ....anyone remember earth amps? i think peavey bought them out but would like to hear from someone that blah............ knows.

i know man crushes can be severe and really fixate people so i think its best to just take it slow and help guide them casually away. maybe you could just get a tatoo of me or something. take hoorta, he could get one of a dome or something. just kidding fellas. having some fun.

seriously though, if you get the chance you should catch the Stones. I was doubtful too, but even at their age they cause viewers to drool in disbelief every time they play. they will surprise you. still im the top 5 best shows right now.

and cerwin vegas rock. i have the 12s.

the story that inspired this thread was $200M in upgrades. there is a reportedly less than $6M in needed repairs/upgrades currently. a retractable roof was suggesed to be why the number is so large at $200M. i expressed my support behind the option for the stadium having cover and then some benefits if they did it. i never claimed it would bring an automatic Super Bowl hosting gig to Cleveland, i said without one it will never, ever happen. i think i

even put forth effort to capitalize...which is big for me. i can't remember what else you wrote but I remember reading dome at least 5 more times...plus li

just smoked a chillem by myself...what say we just agree to disagree at this point. to be honest im on vacation about to hike the Grand Canyon and im over it. if i think of more i'll add it on a layover.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Right, I believe that the City of Cleveland should throw a huge bash to commenorate the induction ceremonies for the RRHOF every year.

All they have to do is to follow the script used by Canton for the PFHOF. A big parade, a dinner, induction ceremonies, other events...and instead of a football game a concert at the stadium.

Yea, the problem is that the LA/NY douchebag crowd are too lazy to get off their asses and come to Cleveland.

Cleveland should just do it on its own....but I guess any rights to the event belong to the HOF...and that board is the douchebag set I referred to.

@hoorta said:

Oddly, I do not believe it is First Energy who supplies the electric to the stadium....rather it is Cleveland Public Power.

If any of you were around in the 1970s you will know that despite what you may think of him otherwise, Dennis Kucinich led the fight against the CEI's predatory practices against "Muni Light" as it was called. CEI is now merged with First Energy nee Ohio Edison.

see this history:

http://www.cpp.org/history.html

big hairy boston bruin lookin motherfucker.

wasn't any lipsynch or auto-tune back then. (look. remember the days of actual guitar cords going to the amps?).

can't name how many times i've seen people eject the cd and throw it out the window doing like 80 mph on the saw mill.

bastards.

depends on what kinda mood i'm in brother. white or red. white or brown.

i woulda never heard of them except i met a goth girl who got me into everything from PIL to nitzer ebb, peter murphy, ministry etc. etc.

me doing the industrial robot dance around the coffee table with the polk audio speakers blaring at 3 AM always get rave reviews from my neighbors.

bitches.

sorry. this is the best i could do at 4:15:

@miktoxic said:

Depeche mode? I think that should firm up your eligibility into the HRHOF (homo rocker hall of fame)

Abba much?

i'm sure that there are more pundits that could come on here and exclaim roots of rock coming from cleveland. no, not the beginnings of r and b or blues that came from the south but fuggin ROCK AND ROLL.

if cleveland is not a big enough venue for fagass bon jovi, how do you think they'll pull in the top acts of today let alone get a super bowl bid?

cleveland needs to do a benefit concert for CLEVELAND itself televised nation-wide with every act ever connected to it performing with ravid fans going wild. put out a concert dvd and start from there.

hell, i just watched the best depeche mode live concert taped in milan, IT. i know frisky single goes shopping there but didn't know it was a hot bed for great live concerts as cleveland is.

i mean is the agora still live and kicking?

@the-gipper said:

I think that is one helluva good idea. It could become the signature event for all of northeast Ohio... combining pro football legacy with the home

or rock and roll. Sound like a very marketable product to me. Schedule the show during the football hall of fame Enshrinement Festival.

@hoorta said:

That is a good idea. First Energy, put your energy where your mouth is.

@sisky-fringo said:

Regarding a SB- that's a once in a lifetime shot for a city like Cleveland. So they raked in $300 million- want to look up how much the city had to spend in security and planning to get that? Please drop the SB option- it's not a cost effective reason for putting a dome on the stadium. You think the Browns put a roof on and go to the NFL- hey, we got a dome now!!! Give us a SB!!! It doesn't work that way, sorry.

Ohhh- games get blacked out? You're making the assumption more people will go to games if it's domed. Plenty of empty seats at Ford Field when the Lions sucked. Ditto Edward Jones in St Louis. As a season ticket holder not my problem if you can't get off your ass and get down to the game, if it's blacked out. Win, and they will come.

The Browns aren't moving- read the lease terms. Gipper can refresh your memory if you've forgotten them. There's a "specific performance" clause in the lease. The Browns HAVE to play in Cleveland for the term of the lease.

Regarding weddings, ever been in the Club Level? It's pretty nice. And there have been weddings & receptions there.

Finally- do you know anything about industrial level heating\ cooling? It's not as simple as you make it out to be. Stadium size- you've literally got millions of cubic feet of air you're going to have to heat up to near room temperature when it's 20 degrees or colder outside- or enough cooling to prevent it from turning into a sauna on a hot summer day. Hmmm- so who is supposed to pay for all those millions of BTUs and kilowatts? It won't be the city of Cleveland, I'd bet. LOL, maybe First Energy will give it to them for free, in exchange for the naming rights.

@miktoxic said:

yep, ya got me on that one. ooooooooooooh. what's that your best shot i just felt or did i get bit by a mosquito?

too bad YOUR material isn't as funny as louis's.

I'm confused

too bad YOUR material isn't as funny as louis's.

chicken parts and baguettes lol

@sisky-fringo said:

hey mik, go suck a bag of dicks

Like, the whole bag? Each dick individually? Or just suck on the corner?

Does he have to make them cum?