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Yep. I said that, because Holder lied about not knowing anything about it, and Obamao appointed Holder,

and won't do anything about Holder and Fast and Furious, AP scandal, failure to even seriously look at prosecuting

the Black Panthers...the list goes on.

That has nothing to do with your claim, sissyboy: "saying this came directly from Holder and Obama to punish their political enemies is seen as truth telling. "

Never said it came directly from them. Even after the fact, they are sandbagging information on the subject at every turn,

just like all the other crap that is going on. Why all the sandbagging, if there isn't anything to hide?

Ah, I remember heckbunker whining and venting about Bush and Cheney outing Plame. Days, even months, I guess.

Then, when it turns out it was never them...silence from Heckbunker. Nothin. He was WRONG and would never admit it.

He just kept changing the subject. And finally, went on "vacation" for the summer.

Steve, your record on these things is miserable. And you never concede that you got it wrong.

So, really, do tell. What's happened here? Because right now there's zero evidence that the administration had anything to do with any of this.

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Ah, the Browns Board. Where reality is spin, and mindless spit-flying insanity passes for truth.

And the truth in this particular situation is that the administration aint quite so savory as you wish they were.

WSS

Pathetic.

Spin on.

WSS

Fast forward a couple months...

Now the right is trying to claim that, okay, maybe conservative groups weren't the only ones targeted, and that progressive groups were targeted as well. But conservative groups were targeted more. And sure, maybe it wasn't necessarily political, and that this was carried out by IRS agent who are self-described Republicans. BUT! We know that the head of the legal affairs section of the IRS is a political appointee, and that the legal affairs office was brought in for clarification on how to deal with all of these new groups, so ....is that close enough to the White House for ya?

It's really getting pathetic.

@calfoxwc said:

Ever. Those two are doing everything they can to stop us from knowing what really happened,

apparently, with the NDA's, bluster by Clinton and Clapper et all.

Yeah, I went to Fox News. There's nothing there to discredit the desire to get

answers about Benghazi. Every scandal is the same with you, heckbunker - "DON'T LOOK BEHIND THAT CURTAIN,

OF COURSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE"

So, let's look behind the curtain. Fair enough, to get you to criticize the coverup now?

As my Irish grandmother used to say, "Lord, help those men."

He's been....practicing with an expert....

@westside-steve said:

You really don't have to poorly surmise my arguments when you can look them up, or when I look them up for you.

I said at the time that this needed to be investigated and that if the allegations were true people should not only be fired, but go to jail. As we learned more, I said that this doesn't look like the initial allegations were going to turn out to be true, and they haven't. I also said the Republicans would overplay their hand on something that was likely far less scandalous than they imagine, and that's also been the case.

Only in this bizarro world do you guys imagine you've been proven right and I've been proven wrong.

the "real" meaning of words are, or he goes on vacation, and comes back triumphantly, hoping nobody

remembers him being stupidly wrong in the past.

Meanwhile, all Congress has to do, I found out, is to subpoena those survivors of Benghazi who were told to

sign NDA's on Benghazi in a huge coverup, and they MUST testify before Congress regardless.

and you did predict that it would be nothing beyond a couple rogue flunkeys and a paperwork snafu.

WSS

And that's not the only place. I can remember doing it in an earlier thread, suggesting that if these charges were true people shouldn't only be fired, they should go to jail. Should I dig up that for you too?

As a bonus, you can even see where Cal says he knows it was "Senior White House advisors."

to be fair I've been out of town...

WSS

Hey Heck, heres another idiot that likes to hear himself talk, but this time he actually made some some rational points..

now Slate?

Really? You lost cred years ago, when you insisted that Bill Clinton never had sex with that woman, that is was

just all a witch hunt by the Republicans.

Dredge up the past is all you have? That isn't much, meathead. The current news is bad for your honey bear president.

He's a failure, a lying blowhard, and a community Horganizer. Say, the Obamaocare you loved so much? Now, even Dems in Congress

and major unons all over the country are po'd at the failure.

And, Zimmerman was definately going to be found NOT GUILTY, you hopingformanslaughter politically dense wingnut.

I will say this about you that is positive, you spell correctly, and you add a lot to this forum when you are gone on vacation. That's

legitimately called "addition by subtraction"......you Dumbass sumbeech. There's a hell of a lot more legitimacy about

Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS and Zimmerman trial interference and subsidy of anti-Zimmerman rallies scandals than

there is with your nanny fraud man made goober warning bs. Have a nice really hot day.

But hey, remember. This is theater. And theater doesn't have to be true. It's just got to convince people like Cal that it's true. And that's not very hard to do.

But maybe it's time you stopped trusting the guy who used to engage in theft and insurance fraud to be on the up and up.

"What did Issa prove? His two new witnesses were Elizabeth Hofacre, a 14-year employee of the IRS based in the infamous Cincinnati office, and Carter Hull, a D.C. IRS staffer. The big revelation was that Hull took his concerns about the IRS's BOLO lists to—hold your breath—the chief counsel of the IRS, a White House appointee. And he did so in 2011!