posting about Kosar sounding drunk.........

yeah.

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But this oline has already made a huge difference for Weeden last year, with Swartz manning RT.

So, I hope he comes back so we can give him crap about how great the oline plays....

Hey, Ghoolie buddy, you picked a fine time to avoid talking about the offensive line, Lucille ! GGG

@calfoxwc said:

Ghoolie would say you are FOS with all your optimism, that this team will be worse than last year. That the QB sucks, the WRs suck, the defense sucks, the coaches suck, the offensive line is fat and overpaid. So? What do you say to that?

@ballpeen said:

I posted his numbers on another thread. He played with the Bill in '10 and '11, but nowhere last year. Not sure why.

My Guess is Norwood and Roosevelt grab those two roster spots, Cooper is cut, and between Davis and Gurley, one goes on IR and the other on the practice squad.

When Gordon comes back they would cut Roosevelt.

Again, assuming the top six stay completely healthy ... that won't happen.

Zombo

Many teams keep 6 WRs on the 53-man roster. The decision of who dresses and who doesn't typically depends on injuries. 45 dress on Sunday, plus your emergency QB. That leaves 7 every week who are inactive. If a guy can prove to be a force on ST from the WR position, they will dress over a guy like Nelson who probably sits 5th on the depth chart.

And we CAN put a guy on the 53-man roster for 2 games and then move him to the practice squad. But remember, players have to clear 24-hour waivers in order to be put on your PS, so it's not automatic (like baseball's minor league) that you get to keep your guy.

te's (Cameron may very well become a star, I think), Richardson and the rest of the rb's...(I want to see Lewis play...),

an aggressive system, with aggressive coaches.

I hope he doesn't feel the pressure...but it's going to be there. Everything is in place now, for him to shine in a dramatic way.

And the front seven on defense? That's scary stuff for any opposing offense they play. I imagine the NFL qb's who face

this Browns front seven on a third and long, aren't going to have much time to make a play.

The question of how many wr's will they keep and which ones, confounds me. But it's a great, new problem for the Browns to have.

@shep said:

Not sure if you are replying to me or not....I think Roosevelt stuck entire seasons.

@pl4tinum said:

Depends on the "relationship"...

I still maintain that the "unexpected" competition from Gordon for #1 WR is what prompted Little's improvement last year.

The Browns clear five are Gordon, Little, Bess, Benjamin, and Nelson... assuming health. A sixth roster spot goes to... Josh Cooper? But some (including Grossi) have made the point that there are so many other guys who like the slot (Bess, Nelson, Gordon), do you keep a PURE slot like Cooper? Or do you make that sixth guy (who only dresses in emergency) someone with a higher upside? I know there's intrigue about Gurley perhaps evolving into a TE/WR hybrid, for instance.

My gut says Cooper ends up making it because of his relationship with Weeds... and he's a good player. So does one of those other guys stick temporarily, for those two games? It's not absolutely necessary. You just bump #6 to #5 and let him dress (like Cooper, for instance).

First two games are GREAT opportunities for Benjamin, who really intrigues Chorv... and Jordan Cameron.

@shep said:

Here are the WRs currently on the roster

Josh Cooper

Jordan Norwood

Keenan Davis

Cordell Roberson

Naaman Roosevelt.

Mike Edwards.

Greg Little

Travis Benjamin

Tori Gurley

Dominique Croom

David Nelson

Davone Bess

That's a dozen. Davis, Roberson, Croom and Edwards are rookies. What I am not sure of is, if they kept one of them on the roster for 2 games, whether or not they could then shift them to the practice squad after that. I tend to think not.

There are 8 other veterans.

I think it is fair to say that Little, Benjamin, Bess and Gordon are pretty safe for their roster spots.

How many WRs do you think they will retain on the 53 man roster?

Maybe they brought in a guy like Roosevelt to be that guy they keep for 2 games while Gordon is on suspension. Or someone else?

You don't just build a team or unit from the top down. Good teams also try to build from the bottom up.

I like it.

@shep said:

So, who is this Donald Jones.....and will getting him satisfy Ghoolie's desire to pick up a top speed burner?

- While praising Weeden's improvement, Chud still calls it a competition. There's a strong sense among the new brass that the youngsters were way too entitled last year and need to be righted.

- Horton says Bademosi has been "good, not great" in converting to safety. I still say if Slaughter proves he's 100% to back up or compete with Gipson, Bademosi moves back to corner where we need some size.

Why? Maybe because he didn't rehab or work out in Cleveland at all. He did some amazing humanitarian work in Haiti but I'm not sure how far that goes with a head football coach. There's a little bit of "fuck you" in saying we could take him off the PUP any day but we need to gauge his health. His surgery was like 11 months ago, a lifetime in today's ACL recovery standards.

Frankly, showing a little interest in Donald Jones should spook Nelson, too. Nelson's quote that he's 100% devoted to the team and the city sounded like a guy who knows his coach wasn't very happy with his absence.

He could be crazy valuable. Just read he's had 6 drops in 150 targets, which is fantastic. He's 6'5" and can run, too. If he's 100%, I wanna see some formations with Bess and Nelson in the slots between Benjamin and Little.

I think Joe Banner belongs atop my list of things to be happy about. I agree with Shaw: He wouldn't agree with much of what Heckert did, though. He wouldn't draft a RB at #3 and Tannehill would almost certainly be our starter.

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