<![CDATA[Whence the Quarterbacks]]>Whence...as is where/how did each team acquire its projected starting QB for this season:

1. Over Half of all projected starting QBs in 2013 were that team's own pick in the First round of the draft:

Buffalo Emmanuel 2013

Miami Tannehill 2012

Jets Sanchez 2009

Baltimore Flacco 2008

Cleveland Weeden 2012

Pittsburgh Roethlisberger 2004

Indy Luck 2012

Jacksonville Gabbert 2011

Tennesse Locker 2011

Washington Griffin 2012

Detroit Stafford 2009

Green Bay Rodger 2005

Minnesota Ponder 2011

Atlanta Ryan 2008

Carolina Newton 2011

Tampa Bay Freeman 2009

St. Louis Bradford 2010

2. Two teams have starting QBs that theyChose in the Second round of the draft:

Cincinnati Dalton 2011

San Francisco Kaepernick 2011

3. One team selected its starting QB in the Third round of the draft:

Seattle Wilson 2012

4. One team selected its starting QB in the Sixth round of the draft:

New England Tom Brady 2000

5. One team got its QB as an Undrafted College Free Agent after the draft:

Dallas Tony Romo 2003

6. Two teams got their QBs by trading their first round picks for each other on draft day:

(you could almost put these in category 1 above

San Diego E. Manning 2004

NY Giants Rivers 2004

7. Five other teams got their QB through a trade:

Houston Schaub in a trade with Atlanta in 2007 (Schaub an original 3rd round pick in 2004)

Kansas City Alex Smith in a trade with San Fran in 2013 (Smith originally 1st round pick 2005)

Oakland Matt Flynn in a trade with Seattle in 2013 (Flynn originally a 7th round pick in 2008)

Chicago Jay Cutler in a trade with Denver in 2009 (Cutler originally a 1st round pick in 2006)

Arizona Carson Palmer in a trade with Oakland in 2013 (Palmer originally a 1st rd. pick in 2003)

8. Three teams got their QB as Veteran Free Agents:

Denver Peyton Manning 2012 (Manning 1st round pick in 1998)

Philadelphia Michael Vick 2009 (Vick originally 1st round pick in 2001)

New Orleans Drew Brees 2009 (Brees originally a 2d round pick in 2001)

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@tampadawgs said:

WOW over load On QBs great job thou

You will be tested on all this 😎

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@the-gipper said:

OK, as for which draft class produced the most Super Bowl winning QBs, here you go:

I am going to make some additions to this chart to include all draft classes going back to 1936, and to add some additional matters to some of these current stats:

1944: 9 7 for Otto Graham, 2 for Bob Waterfield

1956: 5.5 5 for Bart Starr, 1.5 for Morrall who started for Dolphins regular season but not postseason

1979: 5 4 for Montana and 1 for Phil Simms

1970: 4 4 for Bradshaw

2004: 4 2 for E. Manning 2 for Ben Roethlisberger

1957: 4 2 for Len Dawson, 2 for Jack Kemp

1939: 4 4 for Sid Luckman

1955: 3 3 for John Unitas

1949: 3 2 for George Blanda, 1 for Norm Van Brocklin

1971: 3 2 for Plunkett, 1 for Theisman

1989: 3 3 for Aikman

2000: 3 3 for Brady

1956: 2.5 2 for Starr....and I give a half one to Earl Morrall who started the entire 1972 Dolphins season, but not the SB

1950: 2 2 for Tobin Rote

1948: 2 2 for Bobby Layne

1952: 2 1 for Bill Wade 1 for Don Heinrich

1937: 2 2 for Sammy Baugh

1967: 2 2 for Bob Griese

1964: 2 2 for Roger Staubach

1983: 2 2 for John Elway

1940: 2 2 for Tommy Thompson (though he was undrafted)

1994: 2 1 for Trent Dilfer, 1 for Kurt Warner (undrafted)

1955: 1 1 for John Unitas

1957: 1 1 for Len Dawson

1965: 1 1 for Joe Namath

1968: 1 1 for Ken Stabler

1978: 1 1 for Doug Williams

1982: 1 1 for Jim McMahon

1984: 1 1 for Steve Young

1986: 1 1 for Mark Rypien

1991: 1 1 for Bret Favre

1992: 1 1 for Brad Johnson

1994: 1 1 for Trent Dilfer

1998: 1 1 for Peyton Manning

2001: 1 1 for Drew Brees

2005: 1 1 for Aaron Rodgers

2008: 1 1 for Joe Flacco

1958: 1 1 for Frank Ryan

1943: 1 1 for Irv Comp

1941: 1 1 for Paul Christman

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349596https://brownsboard.com/post/349596Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:02:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:14:22 GMT]]>OK, as for which draft class produced the most Super Bowl winning QBs, here you go:

1979: 5 4 for Montana and 1 for Phil Simms

1970: 4 4 for Bradshaw

2004: 4 2 for E. Manning 2 for Ben Roethlisberger

1971: 3 2 for Plunkett, 1 for Theisman

1989: 3 3 for Aikman

2000: 3 3 for Brady

1956: 2.5 2 for Starr....and I give a half one to Earl Morrall who started the entire 1972 Dolphins season, but not the SB

1967: 2 2 for Bob Griese

1964: 2 2 for Roger Staubach

1983: 2 2 for John Elway

1955: 1 1 for John Unitas

1957: 1 1 for Len Dawson

1965: 1 1 for Joe Namath

1968: 1 1 for Ken Stabler

1978: 1 1 for Doug Williams

1982: 1 1 for Jim McMahon

1984: 1 1 for Steve Young

1986: 1 1 for Mark Rypien

1991: 1 1 for Bret Favre

1992: 1 1 for Brad Johnson

1994: 1 1 for Trent Dilfer

1998: 1 1 for Peyton Manning

2001: 1 1 for Drew Brees

2005: 1 1 for Aaron Rodgers

2008: 1 1 for Joe Flacco

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@jrb12711 said:

Interesting. When I gauge that list I was seemingly looking at franchise level QB's. looking over that, I would still contend 2004 was the best year since 83/84. Even though Rivers is declining now all 4 of those guys have been franchise level for years. There seemingly wasn't another class with more than two, or more than one with super bowl rings.

Well, if you recall, there was a long time thought that the vaunted class of 1983 could end up without any SB rings. Those guys had all fallen short: Eason lost one, Kelly 4, Elway 3, Marino 1....until Elway's final hurrah in the late 90s that got him his rings. But, for 15 years...1983-1998 they had none.

That class of 2004 has already doubled 1983 ring total.

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@the-gipper said:

Well, lets look at that, shall we. Here are the most productive members of each quarterback draft class since 1983 inclusive:

These are not necessarily in order of most productive QB per year....but these groups are the most productive QBs of that particular year. A few years, like 1996-97 really only had one person worth mentioning.

Note: those in Bold are in the HOF. Those in italics are good chances for future HOF. RED means Super Bowl winner. Blue means Super Bowl loser

Interesting. When I gauge that list I was seemingly looking at franchise level QB's. looking over that, I would still contend 2004 was the best year since 83/84. Even though Rivers is declining now all 4 of those guys have been franchise level for years. There seemingly wasn't another class with more than two, or more than one with super bowl rings.

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@shep said:

27 of the 32 starters were first or second round picks. 24 were first round picks. Brees, Kaep, and Dalton were very high 2nd round picks, BTW. Wilson, Brady, and Romo are the only current "exceptions," guys were true finds after round 2.

But Pryor is on track to start in Oakland, not whatsisname.

Bottom line: Starting quarterback is the most first-round-centric position in football.

I don't think Pryor starting is absolutely determined yet. He was a supplemental draft pick...but I can't recall the round. It wasn't first...second?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349576https://brownsboard.com/post/349576Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:15:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:03:37 GMT]]>27 of the 32 starters were first or second round picks. 24 were first round picks. Brees, Kaep, and Dalton were very high 2nd round picks, BTW. Wilson, Brady, and Romo are the only current "exceptions," guys were true finds after round 2.

But Pryor is on track to start in Oakland, not whatsisname.

Bottom line: Starting quarterback is the most first-round-centric position in football.

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@the-gipper said:

But the Bills picked up Matt Leinert and Thad Lewis too, didn't they?

Yes ... But Teul starts if Manuel doesn't.

Zombo

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@jrb12711 said:

2004 will still go down as the best QB draft class since 83? when Marino and the gang were picked. 2012 could also easily fit that bill.

Well, lets look at that, shall we. Here are the most productive members of each quarterback draft class since 1983 inclusive:

1983: Elway, Marino, Kelly, OBrien, Eason

1984: Steve Young, Esiason, Hostetler, Schroeder

1985: Kosar, Cunningham, Bono

1986: Jim Everett, Rypien, Brister

1987: Testaverde, Chris Miller, Jim Harbaugh, Rich Gannon, Steve Beuerlein, Majkowski

1988: Chris Chandler, Stan Humphries

1989: Aikman, Rodney Peete

1990: O'Donnell, Jeff George

1991: Favre, Craig Erickson

1992: Maddox, Jeff Blake, Brad Johnson

1993: Bledsoe, Brunell, Grbac, Trent Green

1994: Dilfer, Frerotte

1995: McNair, Kerry Collins, Kordell Stewart

1996: Tony Banks

1997: Jake Plummer

1998: P. Manning, M. Hasselbeck, Charlie Batch, Brian Griese

1999: McNabb, Culpepper, Aaron Brooks, Couch

2000: Brady, Pennington, Bulger

2001: Vick, Brees

2002: Carr, Harrington, David Garrard

2003: Palmer, Leftwich, Grossman

2004: E. Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Schaub

2005: Alex Smith, Rodgers, J. Campbell, Orton

2006: Cutler, Vince Young

2007: Kolb, Trent Edward

2008: Matt Ryan, Flacco, Chud Henne

2009: Stafford, Sanchez, Josh Freeman

2010: Bradford.... Tebow, McCoy? (they are the next best two in terms of production)

2011: Newton, Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernick

These are not necessarily in order of most productive QB per year....but these groups are the most productive QBs of that particular year. A few years, like 1996-97 really only had one person worth mentioning.

Note: those in Bold are in the HOF. Those in italics are good chances for future HOF. RED means Super Bowl winner. Blue means Super Bowl loser

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@the-gipper said:

If you ask a question....you must know the answer. But I am going to make a guess and say possibly 2007. That was the year the Great Smashing Pumpkins when it came to QBs: Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn were the 2 first rounders. I know Quinn didn't start....and I don't think Russell was given the starting job out of the gate that year.

Nope, not a clue - my NFL knowledge stretches back about a year!

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Zombo said:

I think Tuel is slated to start if Manuel doesn't ... so rookie either way!

Zombo

But the Bills picked up Matt Leinert and Thad Lewis too, didn't they?

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@gftchris said:

Given that there's a distinct possibility that EJ Manuel won't be playing week 1 through injury or Kolb-ness, there'd be no rookie QBs starting. First time since...? Gipper, get on it, there's some trivia for ya 😉

If you ask a question....you must know the answer. But I am going to make a guess and say possibly 2007. That was the year the Great Smashing Pumpkins when it came to QBs: Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn were the 2 first rounders. I know Quinn didn't start....and I don't think Russell was given the starting job out of the gate that year.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349559https://brownsboard.com/post/349559Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:59:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:56:18 GMT]]>2004 will still go down as the best QB draft class since 83? when Marino and the gang were picked. 2012 could also easily fit that bill.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349558https://brownsboard.com/post/349558Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:56:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:56:14 GMT]]>Apart and aside from all the guys listed above, here are the other QBs taken in the first round of the draft since Peyton Manning's year, and the categories I place them in:

Good:

Donovan McNabb

Chad Pennington

Dante Culpepper

Average:

Tim Couch

Rex Grossman

Byron Leftwich

Jason Campbell

David Carr

Bad News Bears:

Ryan Leaf

Cade McNown

Akili Smith

Patrick Ramsey

Joey Harrington

Kyle Boller

JP Losman

Matt Leinert

Vince Young

Brady Quinn

Jamarcus Russell

Tim Tebow.

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Zombo said:

I think Tuel is slated to start if Manuel doesn't ... so rookie either way!

Zombo

Did not realise that. Jeff Tuel vs Tom Brady...honestly, it could go either way.

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@gftchris said:

Given that there's a distinct possibility that EJ Manuel won't be playing week 1 through injury or Kolb-ness, there'd be no rookie QBs starting. First time since...? Gipper, get on it, there's some trivia for ya 😉

I think Tuel is slated to start if Manuel doesn't ... so rookie either way!

Zombo

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349555https://brownsboard.com/post/349555Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:45:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:42:06 GMT]]>Given that there's a distinct possibility that EJ Manuel won't be playing week 1 through injury or Kolb-ness, there'd be no rookie QBs starting. First time since...? Gipper, get on it, there's some trivia for ya 😉

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/349554https://brownsboard.com/post/349554Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:42:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Whence the Quarterbacks on Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:31:56 GMT]]>Here also is the order of seniority of all projected starting QBs...in terms of when they entered the league:

1998 Peyton Manning

2000 Tom Brady

2001 Michael Vick

------ Drew Brees

2003 Carson Palmer

------ Tony Romo

2004 Ben Roethlisberger

------ Phillip Rivers

------ Eli Manning

------ Matt Schaub

2005 Alex Smith

------ Aaron Rodgers

2006 Jay Cutler

2008 Joe Flacco

------ Matt Ryan

------ Matt Flynn

2009 Josh Freeman

------ Matt Stafford

------ Mark Sanchez

2010 Sam Bradford

2011 Colin Kaepernick

------ Cam Newton

------ Christian Ponder

------ Jake Locker

------ Blaine Gabbert

------ Andy Dalton

2012 Russell Wilson

------ Robert Griffin III

------ Andrew Luck

------ Brandon Weeden

------ Ryan Tannehill

2013 EJ Manuel

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