@gftchris said:

Your cartoon was stupid and your lame analogy sounded like one woody would make up.

Healthcare is not free, and never will be...someone has to pay for it.

Secondly, health care is certainly not a basic human right. How can your healthcare be a right when it comes at someone elses expense?

It cannot be a right if it requires an obligation from..or imposes a duty on someone else.

I have no obligation to pick you up if you were hitchiking.

Kinda starting to get it now?

I am by no means rich, but I have damn good healthcare...for the time being. Obama has no concerns about anyones health. There was never a healthcare crisis. Socialized healthcare is just one step in Obamas promise to "fundamentally change the United States of America" into a socialist state. Thats what its about you dumb ass libtards.

We are now going to see that 47 million uninsured receive health insurance at the expense of fucking up health care for the remaining 250 million Americans.

There were far less radical ideas proposed by Republicans to provide insurance for those without it, but Obama didn't want to hear any of it...this bill was shoved down Americas throat.

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The Allergists were in favor of scratching it, but the

Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.

The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the Neurologists thought

the Administration had a lot of nerve.

Meanwhile, Obstetricians felt certain everyone was laboring under a misconception, while the

Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted.

Pathologists yelled, "Over my dead body!" while the Pediatricians said, "Oh, grow up!"

The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while the Radiologists could see right through it.

Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing and the Internists claimed it would indeed

be a bitter pill to swallow.

The Plastic Surgeons opined that this proposal would "put a whole new face on the matter".

The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea.

Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas, and those lofty Cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no.

In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the ass holes in Washington.

@gftchris said:

Honestly, I wouldn't bother reading it if it was about my borough in London - seriously, who writes/reads these things?!

To answer your question: legal assistance/nobody.

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@westside-steve said:

Honestly, I wouldn't bother reading it if it was about my borough in London - seriously, who writes/reads these things?!

@gftchris said:

Yes, that's how I'll be spending my downtime, reading a 974-page document on health care reforms...

Of course you are neither a Yank nor a US politician so we give you a pass on that one.

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@diehardbrownsfan said:

Yes, that's how I'll be spending my downtime, reading a 974-page document on health care reforms...

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf

@the-cysko-kid said:

It's a difficult issue, I agree. But I just can't get behind the idea that people aren't entitled to a level of healthcare as standard. We have private health insurance here, with private hospitals, and presumably that would continue over there as well.

It's paid for here out of 'national insurance' - that's currently at 12%, and that goes to pay for the NHS, and other services that are arranged nationally. Given that you have different taxes and things by state, it's probably worth looking at this more at a state level than a national one, at least initially.

@the-cysko-kid said:

The point is, just because *something* happens in a 'bad' country, doesn't make it a bad thing. Free healthcare is an expected right in almost every developed country - not that those countries aren't without their problems, obviously, but I think it's a stretch to blame it on health care.

@gftchris said:

They also breathe air, drink water and eat food in Syria. Ban those things from America!!!

This is a response that makes no sense to me. Do you think this was some kind if zinger? I personally hope this affordable care act works out as advertised. It will save me a lot of money. Somehow, though, o get the feeling the whole thing is rotten and will quickly collapse or the prices will shoot through the roof.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

That's really two different issues you're talking about. First, healthcare should be free to everyone, in my opinion, regardless of who you are, what you do and all that jazz. Secondly, it is far too easy, certainly in the UK, for people to sit on their arse doing nothing getting benefits and living out their comfortable life, drinking, smoking, having the latest iPhone, nike trainers etc.

Two separate issues. One, a basic human right. The other, a socio-economic conundrum.

@the-cysko-kid said:

They also breathe air, drink water and eat food in Syria. Ban those things from America!!!

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