<![CDATA[Hoyer]]>Gentlemen, for what it's worth it's probably not a good idea to invest a great deal of emotion and hope in this young man.

Assuming Mike Lombardi is the arrogant asshole that everyone seems to think he is, whoever we invest in as quarterback, and it's likely to be a big investment, will be given at least 3 years to pan out making the backups pretty much expendable.

And since the draft is going to come before we know whether or not Hoyer can still play it seems as if thats inevitable.

WSS

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@shep said:

He's just right for that role. Stop making me agree with you all the time.

I think we're drafting Manziel.

Please God I hope you're wrong.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/364469https://brownsboard.com/post/364469Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:54:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:52:30 GMT]]>He's just right for that role. Stop making me agree with you all the time.

I think we're drafting Manziel.

@tour2ma said:

Yup...

Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter...

And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement.

Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be.

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@thenew23 said:

Is it really Hoyer was that GOOD? Or, Weeden was that BAD?

I say the 2nd. Can't wait to see if we can get a game changer at QB...

I'd say he looked atleast top 15 don't ya think?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/364461https://brownsboard.com/post/364461Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:43:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:58:14 GMT]]>Is it really Hoyer was that GOOD? Or, Weeden was that BAD?

I say the 2nd. Can't wait to see if we can get a game changer at QB...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/364414https://brownsboard.com/post/364414Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:58:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:54:14 GMT]]>

Kaepernick sat for a season or two did good for him as well.

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@tour2ma said:

Yup...

Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter...

And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement.

Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be.

I don't like it one bit. Rookie QB should get 1 year minimum to sit and learn. The speed of the game from CFB to NFL doesn't compare and most people don't understand that.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/364411https://brownsboard.com/post/364411Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:52:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:44:36 GMT]]>Yup...

@shep said:

Downside: He turns 29 in October, he's coming off major knee surgery, and he has like 4 starts in his life.

Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter...

And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement.

Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be.

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@tour2ma said:

On part one... I don't think so.

I never felt the energy in Campbell Offense that I did during Hoyer time. Execution seemed to be much crisper under Hoyer.

As for part two...

Success?

Success in the sense that it wasn't his fault we lost.

That's success in Cleveland, as of late. It's quite sad.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/364353https://brownsboard.com/post/364353Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:34:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:13:20 GMT]]>I really enjoyed Hoyer. I thought it might be the story of this season, the thing that made it fun and special. What a shitty thing to happen. I like so much about him: Decisive, mobile, quick release, underrated arm, teammates dig him.

Upside: He'll be a Brown next year. He'll rehab, compete, etc. I think he felt the love and his brief experience will make him even more confident. He can be a good quarterback in this league.

Downside: He turns 29 in October, he's coming off major knee surgery, and he has like 4 starts in his life. There's not a chance in hell that the Browns will take a pass on drafting a quarterback in the top 10-ish.

BUT... maybe Hoyer pulls a Brees. Maybe he keeps Manziel on the bench (or whoever).

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system?

On part one... I don't think so.

I never felt the energy in Campbell Offense that I did during Hoyer time. Execution seemed to be much crisper under Hoyer.

As for part two...

Success?

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@westside-steve said:

Possible? Sure but that's their job whether or not theyre inspired.

I think that it may be that Kansas City has been over rated all season and lucky to be eight and 0.

Probably we should have beaten the fuckers.

Good that we held them to field goals when we did but not necessarily good to let them march down the field as often as they did.

WSS

It was a bit reminiscent of Dick Jauron's bend-not-break defence, not the aggressive, turnover causing D we were told to expect from Ray Horton.

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@ballpeen said:

Possibly they feed of the success of the O? I think they did yesterday at any rate. I am not going to say Bess lost the game, but his tragic play was hard to overcome that late in the game.

Possible? Sure but that's their job whether or not theyre inspired.

I think that it may be that Kansas City has been over rated all season and lucky to be eight and 0.

Probably we should have beaten the fuckers.

Good that we held them to field goals when we did but not necessarily good to let them march down the field as often as they did.

WSS

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@westside-steve said:

I notice that when the defense steps up your chances of winning improve greatly as well.

WSS

Possibly they feed of the success of the O? I think they did yesterday at any rate. I am not going to say Bess lost the game, but his tragic play was hard to overcome that late in the game.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system?

I notice that when the defense steps up your chances of winning improve greatly as well.

WSS

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363587https://brownsboard.com/post/363587Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:27:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:48:37 GMT]]>Still feel a lot better about Hoyer but Campbell can get us through this year to a decent (not playoffs) record

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363536https://brownsboard.com/post/363536Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:48:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:39:29 GMT]]>Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363512https://brownsboard.com/post/363512Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:39:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:20:39 GMT]]>Both the Hoyer and Campbell insertions have clearly shown that even an average QB can elevate this team. Not sure who will pan out, but the hyped QB class of 2013 has bust written ALL over it.

I personally don't have the time to watch all the college games, but the one's I have watched haven't impressed me that much. Most of these guys are throwing to wide open receivers. Who among them is throwing BEFORE they are open? That is the guy I want. That is what is required to succeed in the NFL, you must anticipate the break and throw to the spot. Who is doing this the best at the college level right now?

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@tour2ma said:

You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

nice]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363456https://brownsboard.com/post/363456Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:19:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:37:54 GMT]]>Is an all A&M 1st round feasible?....Evans & Manziel?

It's fun watching all these guys, but we'll just have to wait & see what REALLY happens.

Mike

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363351https://brownsboard.com/post/363351Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:37:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:49:01 GMT]]>only sexy pick i'd want at QB is mariota and i wouldn't be willing to trade a bunch of picks to ensure we snag him.

get the CB, LB WR or OL then worry about QB with the second pick.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/363333https://brownsboard.com/post/363333Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:49:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hoyer on Sun, 27 Oct 2013 06:29:31 GMT]]>Let's roll with Hoyer...Shore up LB and secondary with those pics..BUT...Snag a good WR if one is there by draft or FA....Let's do this Cleveland!!!!!

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@westside-steve said:

Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

WSS

Agree 1000%

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@tour2ma said:

You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

+10000

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@the-cysko-kid said:

I'd honestly rather... shep's sexy pics.

You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

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