The thing is, most people in Cincinnati do not know how to handle success when it comes to sports. They act like jackasses when they sniff success. It is one thing to talk a little smack for fun before a game, but the same guys who talk crap, start ripping on the team like idiots when they lose and can't handle it. It is ridiculous.

I grew up here, and actually I hate our generally wishy washy fanbase. Aside from the few knowledgeable, sensable ones anyhow. Most of them have no idea what they are talking about, and act like a child when we lose. I have no patience for that.

Seems to me that your statement would apply to Bengals fans, but not necessarily to Reds fans, who are generally considered to be one of the best fan bases in baseball.

They talk about certain cities as being "baseball, football, or basketball" towns. Those towns historically with the reputation as best "baseball towns" include St. Louis, Cincinnati, and Baltimore (though some Ravens fans deny that". Cleveland is definitely considered a football town (Pittsburgh is now....but I am not sure that was the case before 1970), Green Bay obviously, Dallas.

Boston, Philly, Indy, LA are considered basketball towns.

I don't really talk smack. Especially on someone else's board. I like to be more realistic. I see us splitting this series, and I expect that most years. Not to say it can't be a sweep though. I do worry about our CBs, and with the wind the way it will be on sunday, Dalton's weak arm probably won't fair well again this week. Throwing it 51 times last week was asinine. We absolutely must somehow run the ball. Easier said than done though.

Hopefully both teams play an injury free game! I don't think the Bengals can handle another major injury this year.

Well, when I watch a Ravens/Steelers game, my rooting interest is in the meat wagon getting a lot of use. So, perhaps I am not as benevolent as you. (and if AJ Green came down with a hamstring pull early in the game it would not break my heart)

I'm not a big fans of Bungles fans in general, they seem an obnoxious bunch, but you get an ounce of respect walking in the door as opposed to any Ratbird fan over 30 who was old enough to know they were accepting satan into their lives when they adopted the Ravens as their team.

If you grew up in Cincinnati, you liked football and you rooted for the local team ... I got no problem with that. Glad you are passionate about your team.

It's the ones that parade in here on game week, clog the board with 6th grade smack, and we never see them again after we win, that I loathe ... you aren't one of them are you?

Zombo

I'm not a big fans of Bungles fans in general, they seem an obnoxious bunch, but you get an ounce of respect walking in the door as opposed to any Ratbird fan over 30 who was old enough to know they were accepting satan into their lives when they adopted the Ravens as their team.

If you grew up in Cincinnati, you liked football and you rooted for the local team ... I got no problem with that. Glad you are passionate about your team.

It's the ones that parade in here on game week, clog the board with 6th grade smack, and we never see them again after we win, that I loathe ... you aren't one of them are you?

Zombo

I am a Bengals fan. Probably not much better in your eyes lol.

Grats on beating the Ravens though.

I respect the heck out of Browns fans. Although a little crass and hostile at times (at least on this board), you guys support your team.

More than I can say about a lot of Bengals fans. And you aren't bandwagon like Steeler fans.

No, Harry, I need a Win.

And i'm pretty sure it is coming Sunday.

I wish it were against a franchise that I had at least an ounce of respect for ... Pittsburgh, the other 29 teams ..

But it's against the historically irrelevant and ill-begotten Ratbirds.

A franchise that can take "pride" in that fact their only HOFer, Jonathan Ogden, was the result of a draft pick stolen from Cleveland. And their franchise "icon", Ray Lewis, was also a Browns draft pick that the Browns had traded for, but the Ravens stole. Ray went on to make Baltimore proud though, being found guilty of obstructing justice in a double homicide. That's all yours.

In fact every player that has worn the Mauve and Black is illegitimate in that they were all selected by Ozzie Newsome who you were able to get through the heist.

I wish you weren't even in the division, our division, Buffalo or Indy would have been a better fit, but you are, and the winner of this game gets to climb back in the race and put some heat on Cincy. We already beat them and I'm pretty sure we'll beat you too now that we don't have a Retard at QB.

It'll be fun to win ... just wish it was against a real team with real fans and not a bunch of soulless pussies in purple.

Zombo

@mark-o said:

Any beer is good beer.

Well let's just say that any beer is better than no beer at all..... Do they have Great Lakes at the stadium? If so a lot of their stuff is above average. Unfortunately they have taken to tinkering with some of the recipes and putting in less hops, the excuse being that hops are expensive. Hey fellas, blow me. 10 bucks for a 4 pack of Nosferatu and you fuckers are going to grind me for a pennies worth of hops???

Still, Baltimore guy, it's better than national bohemian... But I hope you had a good time in Cleveland!

WSS

The ones at the game were great because Zombo was buying.....seems he kept losing bets to me.

Not exactly- but close. The reason why the Cowboys aren't in the NFC South (where they belong) Is Jerry Jones- who has way more clout with the other owners than he deserves- was adamant about keeping the rivalry with the Redskins.

The young 'uns may not know it- but way back in the 60s the Browns had a pretty heated rivalry with the Giants- until Carpetbagger Modell figured out he could make a lot of money by switching conferences. So tough Jerry- times change. you have no geographic rivalry with Washington DC.

The Ratbirds belong in the AFC East, but I doubt it ever happens. The NFL likes the rivalry thing (as it should), that's why they didn't oust Dallas from the NFC East for instance. In the NFL's haste to put Balt-Pitt in the same division, they bitch slapped us by making sure we play the Ratbirds twice a year and we get riled up about the move.

I have always said they should make a Carpet Bagger Division with Baltimore, St. Louis, Tennessee, & Indy.

My ideal division would be cle, det, buf, and either chi or pit

The browns and bengals should not be in the same division or even the same conference. As far as I know we are the only two team state (not three or more) that has teams in the same fucking division. Plus its too much orange and we had it first.

But then you only get really heated up about 6 games a season. If you split up the intra-state rivals, then you have both division and state rivals. Don't you? Are the Steelers and Eagles rivals?

But you perhaps have far better rivalrie within the divisions. Jets/Giants? Ravens/Redskins Raiders/49ers Cowboys/Texans

Dolphins/Buccaneers Rams/Chiefs

Who cares if you have no rivalries outside the division when the in-division rivalries are vastly magnified.

The problem with rotating like that is you don't get to see rivalry growing outside the divisions. For example, everyone was excited about the Broncos vs Ravens at the start of the year because the Ravens robbed the broncos in the playoffs. You wouldn't have that with the rotation.

wish you weren't even in the division, our division, Buffalo or Indy would have been a better fit, but you are, and the winner of this game gets to climb back in the race and put some heat on Cincy. We already beat them and I'm pretty sure we'll beat you too now that we don't have a Retard at QB.

Are you saying "Realignment"? How about this scenario:

Northeast Division: Patriots, Jets, Giants, Bills

Mid-Atlantic Division: Eagles, Ravens, Redskins, Panthers

Southeast Division: Dolphins, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Falcons

North Division: Browns, Steelers, Bengals, Colts

Great Lakes Division: Lions, Bears, Packers, Vikings

Mid-Central Division: Saints, Titans, Chiefs, Rams

Southwest Division: Cowboys, Texans, Broncos, Cardinals

West Coast Division: Seahawks, 49ers, Raiders, Chargers

Essentially, to me you do away with the Conferences..or actually what you have are divisions that rotate....so that you don't have what you have in basketball just East vs. West.

One year say you have in the American Conference: the Northeast, Great Lakes, Mid-Central and West Coast divisions.

The next year you have completely different division alignment. And do that on a rotation kind of like what they do with the schedules now.

Need a hug?

. Gets down to the collegiate level too- OSU- Michigan, nice class slashing tires of cars with Michigan plates.