@ballpeen said:

I think after the Marshall and Wichita St. incidents the major leagues were fully aware of the possibility of something happening. Thurman Munson's death may also have contributed to their awareness.

@the-gipper said:

Interesting stuff. Obviously no commissioner wants to have to envoke these rules, but the rules have to be in place. You can't just make them up after a team plane goes down or transit bus gets hit by a train after stalling on the tracks.

kept drinking gin and tonics for the nine hour flight and even though my bladder was about to burst couldn't embarrass myself or the U.S> army by standing up and having to go piss, so i just waited until we landed and bomblasted the first men's room i saw.

been on a plenty tough flights. the best was when flying from LA to hawaii and cc deville from the band poison was on the plane. i had just got out of the army and partying my ass off and he's at the bar in the lux lounge in first class.

i go to him "man you must have the life, in a top band flying to hawaii to film 'MTV rocks' you got all the chicks in the world, c'mon man tell me you don't party your ass off?"

"no man, we just chill. no big deal."

2 months later after seeing the show of them (poison) in hawaii on their little boogie boards he goes into rehab from doing too much coke.

i was like mutherfucker, i knew it! at least that douchebag could have shared!

80's...the decade of new wave. punk, techno, rap had just come out and you didn't have to worry about sexually transmitted diseases until like 85.

hit my primetime in the primetime.

oh btw: 2 great airline crash scenes (movies) tom kanks in the fedex cargo plane in 'castaway' and jeff bridges in the movie 'fearless'.

@the-gipper said:

you have prolly seen this one:

@slowburn said:

That was caused by the cargo shifting in the plane.

@slowburn said:

Fuck me. Where/when was this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_draft

So? You are saying that the next time you get on a plane it is best to make sure that the pilot isn't a Klingon?

@slowburn said:

Maybe it's not well known over there but everyone in european soccer knows the story of the munich air disaster. 20 out of 44 people on board killed.

10/29/60 A plane taking off from a Toledo airport crashed killing 16 players from the Cal Poly football team

10/2/70 A crash into a Colorado mountain left 29 members of the Wichita State football team dead (The Marshall crash occurred only six weeks later)

3/14/80 All sixteen members of the US amateur boxing team were killed in a Warsaw, Poland plane crash

@kosar_for_president said:

exactly what i thought of when you posted this thread.

@miktoxic said:

LOL that was funny

@miktoxic said:

The problem with message boards is you sometimes just read the words and don't know when to read between the lines.

@miktoxic said:

my post was supposed to bring 'the how dare you factor'. as a joke.

you didn't have to point out 'the facts'.

@ballpeen said:

my post was supposed to bring 'the how dare you factor'. as a joke.

you didn't have to point out 'the facts'.

@miktoxic said:

I am sure we would have been given a team similar to how we got our last team. Teams would have had to expose maybe 7 players from their roster for a draft of players and we would have been given extra picks in the draft. I am sure that somewhere that has already been discussed and a plan is in place.

As for Haslam, I am sure he wasn't. He lives in Knoxville. He was on his jet headed to Tennessee. Why is he going to fly to Cleveland for a game in Cincinnati? Plus....why say the plane the team was on was a piece of junk? It was a regular jet used everyday.

I have flown more than a few miles. Sooner or later you are going to hit some bad weather and some rough landings. There have been a few. What gets me through those is my belief that the pilot wants to see his kids/wife/husband again as much as I do mine.

I mean, if the pilot decides that "today is a good day to die", well, the weather conditions don't really matter, do they?

betcha haslam wasn't on that heap of junk.

@gftchris said:

They don't fly in a luxury jet. Just a charter.....pretty much the same jet you and I fly. All the airlines run a charter service. Just jets they use day to day but reserve for charter when needed.

As for why they flew....it's not up to them to decide if conditions call for a grounding. That's up to the pilot, FAA, tower, and maybe the ground crew if they can't de-ice the plane for whatever reason.

There's my man.

Zombo