<![CDATA[how to make the browns better or worse next year.]]>Our only golden jem is Josh Gordon. Our only trade bait. I can see the regime getting rid of him along with DQ, haden, Little, Mack, Ward (thomas to expensive to get rid of). So we can pick up a couple of picks in the draft for these guys. We are back at square one. PS we keep weeden as a back up. With these guys gone how the fuck can you fix this team? There is a good chance all these guys are gone. Remember we have Fucklamabardi making the picks

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@cainedesoulis said:

While I agree with alot of the weeden bashing going on i cant put the jags loss on him. He threw one pick where cameron overran his route and one pick were little didnt cut back. the safety was just making the best out of a bad situation. the strip fumble is his fault always protect the ball. considering he played better yesterday than he has all year completing 60% and gaining nearly 370 yds on 3 touchdowns. anyone saying a great QB can make bad WR's good is just...wrong...it doesent even make any sense...even mathmatically its wrong...a good reciever needs to be able to do 3 things. run a good route, Get open and heres a shocker Catch the ball. they need to be able to do those things consistantly. Little needs work in all 3 areas. and bess needs to learn how to catch again. I'm not advocating weeden for next year not based on his skill as a passer but his inability to lead the offense. he would make a fine backup qb for us or any team for that matter.as long as he continues to develop as a leader and continues to develop his mental game. he could even become a starter again if he developed those 2 traits. its highly unlikely considering his age and generally relaxed attitude. but its possible.

In regards to what the browns can do for next year to improve the team I would suggust using the 2 1st round picks to take a QB 1st then a WR with 2nd pick. followed by a power HB in the 2nd then using the 2 thirds on another WR and then a Power FB. ILB,RG,FS and CB need to be addressed at some point during the draft/FA.

In regards to josh gordan even though he's a great WR I could very easily see the FO trading him only on the basis of his off the field activities. You can say the same thing about haden but when i saw him nearly weeping after screwing up his coverage in the closing minutes of the game yesterday. I would have to lean that haden is a safer bet but may still prove me wrong.

anyway been reading this forum since 2007 thought it was about time to make a post.

I'll have to disagree with you about Weeden. He lacks the hair trigger reflexes the great (or even good) qbs have, and that's not improvable, especially at his 30+ age. The stat that Hoyer was getting the ball out a full second faster than the Weedster is damning- an eternity in the NFL. Did you notice today he had Campbell open early on an out route and hung onto the ball until Jason ran into coverage and had to make a superior play on the ball? He can't lead a receiver properly either- that TD to Little was behind him, threw high to Gordon at least once that got him strung out, and tossed another one behind Bess. Oh, he's got a cannon allright- and it's inaccurate way too often. Add in no pocket presence- he's gotten strip sacked how many times now? Love those underhanded Ephus tosses too- not.

Nope, regarding Gordon- he's freaking untradable- get that out of your mind right now. Would the Lions trade Megatron? Cardinals Fitzgerald? The guy is only 50 yards behind mighty Megatron in two fewer games, so kindly get real. There is no one in this upcoming draft that any team would realistically give up draft position to snag Gordon, and there's damn few prospects the Browns would be willing to give up a proven talent like Josh for. Yeah, let's give up our high first and Gordon to land Bridgewater- now who is he going to throw the ball to? Damn shades of Warfield for Mike Phipps, I swear- I'll hurl if that comes about.

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@cainedesoulis said:

While I agree with alot of the weeden bashing going on i cant put the jags loss on him. He threw one pick where cameron overran his route and one pick were little didnt cut back. the safety was just making the best out of a bad situation. the strip fumble is his fault always protect the ball. considering he played better yesterday than he has all year completing 60% and gaining nearly 370 yds on 3 touchdowns. anyone saying a great QB can make bad WR's good is just...wrong...it doesent even make any sense...even mathmatically its wrong...a good reciever needs to be able to do 3 things. run a good route, Get open and heres a shocker Catch the ball. they need to be able to do those things consistantly. Little needs work in all 3 areas. and bess needs to learn how to catch again. I'm not advocating weeden for next year not based on his skill as a passer but his inability to lead the offense. he would make a fine backup qb for us or any team for that matter.as long as he continues to develop as a leader and continues to develop his mental game. he could even become a starter again if he developed those 2 traits. its highly unlikely considering his age and generally relaxed attitude. but its possible.

In regards to what the browns can do for next year to improve the team I would suggust using the 2 1st round picks to take a QB 1st then a WR with 2nd pick. followed by a power HB in the 2nd then using the 2 thirds on another WR and then a Power FB. ILB,RG,FS and CB need to be addressed at some point during the draft/FA.

In regards to josh gordan even though he's a great WR I could very easily see the FO trading him only on the basis of his off the field activities. You can say the same thing about haden but when i saw him nearly weeping after screwing up his coverage in the closing minutes of the game yesterday. I would have to lean that haden is a safer bet but may still prove me wrong.

anyway been reading this forum since 2007 thought it was about time to make a post.

welcome to the factory of sadness. Pull up a chair

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@cainedesoulis said:

While I agree with alot of the weeden bashing going on i cant put the jags loss on him. He threw one pick where cameron overran his route and one pick were little didnt cut back. the safety was just making the best out of a bad situation. the strip fumble is his fault always protect the ball. considering he played better yesterday than he has all year completing 60% and gaining nearly 370 yds on 3 touchdowns. anyone saying a great QB can make bad WR's good is just...wrong...it doesent even make any sense...even mathmatically its wrong...a good reciever needs to be able to do 3 things. run a good route, Get open and heres a shocker Catch the ball. they need to be able to do those things consistantly. Little needs work in all 3 areas. and bess needs to learn how to catch again. I'm not advocating weeden for next year not based on his skill as a passer but his inability to lead the offense. he would make a fine backup qb for us or any team for that matter.as long as he continues to develop as a leader and continues to develop his mental game. he could even become a starter again if he developed those 2 traits. its highly unlikely considering his age and generally relaxed attitude. but its possible.

In regards to what the browns can do for next year to improve the team I would suggust using the 2 1st round picks to take a QB 1st then a WR with 2nd pick. followed by a power HB in the 2nd then using the 2 thirds on another WR and then a Power FB. ILB,RG,FS and CB need to be addressed at some point during the draft/FA.

In regards to josh gordan even though he's a great WR I could very easily see the FO trading him only on the basis of his off the field activities. You can say the same thing about haden but when i saw him nearly weeping after screwing up his coverage in the closing minutes of the game yesterday. I would have to lean that haden is a safer bet but may still prove me wrong.

anyway been reading this forum since 2007 thought it was about time to make a post.

Well its about time. Welcome aboard

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369513https://brownsboard.com/post/369513Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:45:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:31:19 GMT]]> While I agree with alot of the weeden bashing going on i cant put the jags loss on him. He threw one pick where cameron overran his route and one pick were little didnt cut back. the safety was just making the best out of a bad situation. the strip fumble is his fault always protect the ball. considering he played better yesterday than he has all year completing 60% and gaining nearly 370 yds on 3 touchdowns. anyone saying a great QB can make bad WR's good is just...wrong...it doesent even make any sense...even mathmatically its wrong...a good reciever needs to be able to do 3 things. run a good route, Get open and heres a shocker Catch the ball. they need to be able to do those things consistantly. Little needs work in all 3 areas. and bess needs to learn how to catch again. I'm not advocating weeden for next year not based on his skill as a passer but his inability to lead the offense. he would make a fine backup qb for us or any team for that matter.as long as he continues to develop as a leader and continues to develop his mental game. he could even become a starter again if he developed those 2 traits. its highly unlikely considering his age and generally relaxed attitude. but its possible.

In regards to what the browns can do for next year to improve the team I would suggust using the 2 1st round picks to take a QB 1st then a WR with 2nd pick. followed by a power HB in the 2nd then using the 2 thirds on another WR and then a Power FB. ILB,RG,FS and CB need to be addressed at some point during the draft/FA.

In regards to josh gordan even though he's a great WR I could very easily see the FO trading him only on the basis of his off the field activities. You can say the same thing about haden but when i saw him nearly weeping after screwing up his coverage in the closing minutes of the game yesterday. I would have to lean that haden is a safer bet but may still prove me wrong.

anyway been reading this forum since 2007 thought it was about time to make a post.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369507https://brownsboard.com/post/369507Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:31:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 04:53:29 GMT]]>If there were a couple of decent threats ( meaning running routes and catching a ball) Gordon will not be closed off the field next year.

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@hoorta said:

The Browns have one glaring hole- and it's called Brandon Weedon.

Quit insulting glaring holes...

@thenew23 said:

There is nothing even close to a rational thought in that post... or anything you are saying on this thread.

Who in their right mind looks at a guy like Gordon, and thinks, "trade bait!" I guess only deranged Browns fans!

Keep drinkin...

Bingo! Most idiotic thread in a long, long time...

@typicalbrowns said:

Why trade a goddamn gem like Gordon who just made history at 22 years old, for an inferior reciever? No way. Not one receiver in this draft is as good as Gordon.

With possible exception of Watkins... who I would be very happy to see us nab...

@lbc-mike said:

Do you not think other teams will cover Gordon like crazy? he is our only threat? Cam has been a non factor with Campbell and Weeds. They will cut our field in half at our current stat next year unless it changes. We can be the many teams that have a sole good player and not do shit.

Do you not think they are trying to do that now?

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@lbc-mike said:

Do you not think other teams will cover Gordon like crazy? he is our only threat? Cam has been a non factor with Campbell and Weeds. They will cut our field in half at our current stat next year unless it changes. We can be the many teams that have a sole good player and not do shit.

Something is missing in your equation though. I doubt either Campbell or Weeden will be starting next year. I think Hoyer is going to get that chance, and he´s proven he can get it to any of the receivers (if they can CATCH it is the other question).The more teams double cover Gordon, the more others get open.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369395https://brownsboard.com/post/369395Mon, 02 Dec 2013 03:20:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 03:08:14 GMT]]>Other teams try to cover Megatron an he still goes off. Same with a team putting 8 in the box against Adrian Peterson. You can only stop greatness for sooooo long

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369385https://brownsboard.com/post/369385Mon, 02 Dec 2013 03:08:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 03:02:51 GMT]]>Do you not think other teams will cover Gordon like crazy? he is our only threat? Cam has been a non factor with Campbell and Weeds. They will cut our field in half at our current stat next year unless it changes. We can be the many teams that have a sole good player and not do shit.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369382https://brownsboard.com/post/369382Mon, 02 Dec 2013 03:02:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:59:37 GMT]]>Gordon, unless he gets suspended, he will be the 2nd best WR in the league. ANd the only reason I think Calvin Johnson will be better is because Stafford

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@lbc-mike said:

I do not consider Gordon to be a factor on our team next year.

I do not consider you to be very smart.

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@lbc-mike said:

I do not consider Gordon to be a factor on our team next year.

You drunk, high or on your period?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369371https://brownsboard.com/post/369371Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:44:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:39:39 GMT]]>I do not consider Gordon to be a factor on our team next year.

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@thenew23 said:

Great receivers can perform despite the coverage... Gordon will be great... More importantly it should open things up for Cameron, and whatever weapons we can add

Not worried about Gordon. He caught passes from Weeden. So if we get a real QB, he can only do better

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@lbc-mike said:

Gordon will be blanketed next year like an naked person in the Arctic.

Great receivers can perform despite the coverage... Gordon will be great... More importantly it should open things up for Cameron, and whatever weapons we can add

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369363https://brownsboard.com/post/369363Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:32:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:27:30 GMT]]>GET a db coach that teaches, and gets guys to not let Wr's behind them

We win 2 more games with that teaching

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369360https://brownsboard.com/post/369360Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:27:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:44:19 GMT]]>Gordon will be blanketed next year like an naked person in the Arctic.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369349https://brownsboard.com/post/369349Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:44:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:42:55 GMT]]>Can you imagine a decent quality QB thowing to him? I honestly like, Jordon, Haden, Gordon, Oib-one-canoli, Thomas, Sheard, Mingo, our DT's, Gordon, Benji, Lewis. This is our core. everyone else can go in my honest opinion. get a veteran CB, an above average ILB and LE in FA. The rest in of our needs in the draft.

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@lbc-mike said:

No one in the college ranks has showed any "must have" player. We should cut all our ties with the bums on this team and draft the BPA in this year draft.

@lbc-mike said:

I am just saying Gordon has value. might as well take advantage of it next year. use the pick to get or trade to get a fucking good QB. any quality QB can make any WR have a good year.

You just contradicted yourself- hate to point it out. Sure, Gordon has value- so does Megatron, or Peyton Manning for that matter- but as you said- "No one in the college ranks has showed any "must have" player." So you want us to trade our one only only damn stud offensive threat to take a crap shoot in the draft? Please go away and sober up.

@lbc-mike said:

LOL. didn't we have this talk regarding Hillis a few years back?

Now you're down to groveling that Gordon's season is a one year fluke? Hate to tell you he's getting at least one more year to prove it's not.

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@thenew23 said:

Or, don't add a QB. That would work too...

Agree

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@lbc-mike said:

Trade Gordon for picks that we will scream about. I would not be suprised with Lombardi.

Nope, Gordon is here. Chud will claw and bite to keep him here.

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@d-bone said:

How to make them worse next year? Easy, trade our 2nd 1st round pick, plus probably another, to move up and grab some over rated, over hyped, workout warrior QB. That's how.

Or, don't add a QB. That would work too...

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Zombo said:

Oh dear God no.

No. No..

Fuck no.

Trade Randy Moss so we can draft Duante Culpepper?

Z

Dont ever ever ever fucking trade Josh Gordon. Ever.

Why trade a goddamn gem like Gordon who just made history at 22 years old, for an inferior reciever? No way. Not one receiver in this draft is as good as Gordon.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369340https://brownsboard.com/post/369340Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:17:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to how to make the browns better or worse next year. on Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:16:26 GMT]]>How to make them worse next year? Easy, trade our 2nd 1st round pick, plus probably another, to move up and grab some over rated, over hyped, workout warrior QB. That's how.

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