<![CDATA[Turnovers]]>I think it may be fair to say that it is the Turnovers that have led directly to the Browns defeat the last 3 games. Here is a litany of those offenses:

Campbell intercepted by Gordon of Cincy

Lanning has punt blocked

Lanning has second punt block...result Bengals TD

Ogbannaya fumbles....result Bengals TD

Campbell intecepted by Nelson of Cincy..result TD

Campbell intercepted by Johnson of Cincy

Ogbannaya fumbles vs. Pitt

Campbell fumbles

Weeden fumbles

Weeden interception by Gay...result TD

Weeden intercepted by Cyprien of Jax

Weeden intercepted by Gratz of Jax

Weeden fumble

Alex Mack fumble, result safety

(yes, officially the fumble is credited to Mack...probably rightly so.

So Campbell is responsible for 4 TOs, Ogbanaya for 2, Lanning for 2, Weeden for 5, and Mack for one.

So, to me, there is plenty of freeking blame to go around.

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@tour2ma said:

Funny way to think of it... Reminded me of the M.A.S.H. football sequence... "What do you think you are a damn cannon?"

Not really if you consider that Alex Mack was the last person with his hands on the ball on that play...an considering it really was his fault.

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@the-gipper said:

Alex Mack fumble

Funny way to think of it... Reminded me of the M.A.S.H. football sequence... "What do you think you are a damn cannon?"

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369856https://brownsboard.com/post/369856Wed, 04 Dec 2013 04:03:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:38:24 GMT]]>Coulda, shoulda, woulda.....blah, blah, blah. Who gives a damn!? We have what we have & we are what we are. Can we just live in the present & trust THIS FO to take us to a better place?

Mike

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@poeticg said:

...all of them, and nearly all of them were decided because we have the shittiest stable of NFL QBs in the league. All of them are shit. We should have kept McCoy, at the very least you could root for guy, these guys you just root for them to get hurt, each and every one sucks fat fucking thumbs.

Have you seen the Jets/Jags/Texans QBs? We had decent (hoyer) to mediocre (Campbell) QBs but they got hurt and we are left with Wheezy and Hanieeeeeee.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369839https://brownsboard.com/post/369839Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:56:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:51:02 GMT]]>I think we need to beat the "we should've kept Colt" horse just a little bit more. I don't think it's quite beaten to death yet.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369838https://brownsboard.com/post/369838Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:51:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:38:00 GMT]]>...all of them, and nearly all of them were decided because we have the shittiest stable of NFL QBs in the league. All of them are shit. We should have kept McCoy, at the very least you could root for guy, these guys you just root for them to get hurt, each and every one sucks fat fucking thumbs.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369837https://brownsboard.com/post/369837Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:38:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:17:01 GMT]]>OK, they have been charged with 12 official TOs in the last 3 games (the blocked punts don't count....though they probably should).

That means in 3 games they committed 12...or 4 per game avg., but in the prior 9 games they committed only 11 or an average of only 1.22.

Edit: Is or is not that the definition of choking at crunch time. A win in all 3 of those games would have them leading the race for that last WC race.

If they had only committed 1 or 2 TOs in each of these last 3 games....how many do they win?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369815https://brownsboard.com/post/369815Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:17:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:11:35 GMT]]>Some more data:

Offensive TOs:

Least: Kansas City with 12

NFL avg: 19

Browns: 23 (25th ranked)

Worst: 31 Giants

Defensive TOs:

Most: 27 Seahawks

NFL avg.: 19

Browns: 14 (tied for 26th)

Worst: 9 Texans/Jets

So, in theory I guess, as bad as the Browns are at giving the ball away (25th), they are slightly worse at taking it away: 26th.

(this represents the entire season. I think they would have been in a hell of a lot better shape prior to the last 3 games)

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369814https://brownsboard.com/post/369814Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:11:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:06:18 GMT]]>Oh I was reading from the second post. I thought the first one was a resuscitation of something Gip and I had talked about in another thread.

See what happens when you assume?

My fault.

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Zombo said:

Yeah, he had two against Cincy. One right after another, second one went for a TD.

Zombo

OK, did I miss anything else? I was checking on the play by play descriptions from NFL .com.

Have the Browns recovered a fumble in the past 3 games? When is the last time they recovered one?

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@the-gipper said:

I am just documenting the last 3 games.

If Haden had a third int. in their then I must have missed it.

Yeah, he had two against Cincy. One right after another, second one went for a TD.

Zombo

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

The Browns defense has 9 INT's and 5 FF's on the year, tied with Pittsburgh for 4th lowest in the AFC and 5th lowest in the NFL.

Conversely, the offense has 15 INT's and 8 fumbles, which is 4th highest in the AFC and around 7th highest in the NFL.

I don't know what you were reading.

I am just documenting the last 3 games.

If Haden had a third int. in their then I must have missed it.

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@richiswhere said:

WOW TCPO first you can't do math today now your reading comprehension is at a 1st grade level

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Elaborate?

Gipper was talking about the last 3 games not the whole season. That's where he was getting his numbers.

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@richiswhere said:

WOW TCPO first you can't do math today now your reading comprehension is at a 1st grade level

Elaborate?

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

The Browns defense has 9 INT's and 5 FF's on the year, tied with Pittsburgh for 4th lowest in the AFC and 5th lowest in the NFL.

Conversely, the offense has 15 INT's and 8 fumbles, which is 4th highest in the AFC and around 7th highest in the NFL.

I don't know what you were reading.

WOW TCPO first you can't do math today now your reading comprehension is at a 1st grade level

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369799https://brownsboard.com/post/369799Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:44:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:35:26 GMT]]>The Browns defense has 9 INT's and 5 FF's on the year, tied with Pittsburgh for 4th lowest in the AFC and 5th lowest in the NFL.

Conversely, the offense has 15 INT's and 8 fumbles, which is 4th highest in the AFC and around 7th highest in the NFL.

I don't know what you were reading.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369794https://brownsboard.com/post/369794Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:35:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:14:38 GMT]]>There was a second INT for haden against Cincy.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/369790https://brownsboard.com/post/369790Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:14:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Turnovers on Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:59:49 GMT]]>So, while the Browns were committing 14 TOs, here are the TOs that they forced upon the other team:

Joe Haden Interception for TD vs. Bengals

Joe Haden Interception vs. Jags.

And THAT is all.

Not a single forced fumble.

Our QBs were stripped on pressure at least 3 times. Where is that kind of pressure on the opposing QB? Its not there.

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