@shep said:

True, but it is still possible to overrate prospects... especially if you conflate the two.

With Aaron Rodgers, Super Bowl contenders. Without? Worse than the Browns. With Manning or Luck, Super Bowl contenders. Without either? Worse than the Browns. With Stafford? Playoffs. Without? Garbage. Before Russell Wilson, great defense and a shot at the 6th seed! With him, best team in the NFL.

Eagles before Foles, Dream Team Losers. With him? 8-5 and hot as hell. Goes on and on. It's undeniable.

Yet it doesn't really work the other way. No matter who plays on defense, or even receiver, Brady and Manning just keep winning.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

As if facts matter when frantic fans whipped to a frenzy by "experts" go on a QB hunt with their blood up.

@the-gipper said:

Just last year, eh?

LOL... He shoots he scores...

And I liked the Carlin tribute as well... especially coming from you who is about a 2 on the boards cuss scale of from 0 to "mik"...

@miktoxic said:

don't want to agree with me? fine. well that's what forums are about. i've formed good internet friendships on this forum and god knows 80% of them don't agree with me.

You're being modest... it's at least 90%...

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

I watched him play in college. He was a first round talent with a huge arm that had an incident and dropped. He only has one year left on his contract so New England will want to trade him before they lose him for nothing. I highly doubt he resigns with them because He'll be 29-30 when Brady retires. I was guesstimating the picks it would take.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

What has Mallet ever done do warrant a 2nd OR a 4th? What evidence is there of him being any good? If he is so good, then do you really think an organization like the Patriots are going to dump him when Brady is just a couple years from retiring?

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

I think we should take a good long look at Mallett....seriously. maybe give em like a 2nd and 4th for him and we could draft another guy late.

@kybrownsfan said:

I work all louisville home games,bridgewater is over rated we do not want him.

@kybrownsfan said:

By all means, tell us more. Your insight could be very interesting.

@alwardc4 said:

Who died and made you forum gestapo?

@alwardc4 said:

Every team in 1st place in their division has had the same QB for the whole year.

Every team at the bottom of their division except for Atlanta and maybe one other has had multiple QBs.

The Packers have only one game without Aaron Rodgers at the helm.

So yes, the only position that needs to be upgraded to take the Browns to a winning record is QB. Getting far in the playoffs and to the Super Bowl will require another WR, 1-2 OG, an RB, an ILB and maybe another CB.

So to answer the question in the subject header, if the Browns don't see the franchise QB in this draft they have several options:

1) Sign Jay Cutler and address the positions listed above in the draft, and also include a QB that you can sit behind Cutler.

or:

2) Don't sign Cutler, draft a QB in the third round that you can sit behind Hoyer or Campbell. Draft for the positions above.

or

3) Sign Cutler, don't draft a QB this year, address all the positions listed above in the draft early, draft for depth in the later rounds, and plan to draft Cutler's successor in 2015.

Personally I think the Browns have an excess of assets that they can afford to be aggressive in finding a good QB, and should throw multiple of those assets at the problem. Why? There are only two players on the offense that touch the ball for every offensive play of the game, and only one of them decides what to do with it. QB is the bottleneck of the offense, and that's why it is the most important position in any team sport.

WSS

@miktoxic said:

Because their QBs have all sucked. And really, just unlucky. They restart the franchise a year earlier and get Manning instead of Couch its likely all sunshines and rainbows. Plus, we are all less cranky.

Everybody here knows QB is most important. I think I disagree with most by HOW much its most important.

Big change from when I was a kid. Couldn't the Bears, Skins, Giants, etc start anybody at QB and win 10 games back in the day? Its kinda a shame. Damn rule changes.

The team that ticks me off the most (aside from steelers) is the Colts. They have a trash roster and a goofball owner, yet they are in the middle of enjoying about 30 years of playoff appearances because they got Manning and Luck.

@alwardc4 said:

if that's what you are good at maybe you can teach me some of that wisdom.

facts, figures and streaks don't mean poo poo to me, cuz we haven't seen 9 and 7 in how long? yet we have a foundation of solid players on both lines (exceot OL tot he right) and yet with every genious coach and regime change we barely touch the .500 mark.

is it coaching (yes) is it an owner that won't drop the hammer when needed to be, or is the over-hyped draft picks and FA we sign that don't do suadoosh?

Peace fellow Browns fan.

hey i'll rail on anyone in this org. that i think is letting us down. could be the FO, could be the coaching staff and even the players who were signed and over-paid.

sorry if that seeps through your little lizard skin to the point of where it hurts your 40+ years of the love/hate relationship to this team. not 40+ years? well then you can't say shit cuz i was shitting yellow 10-15 years before you were even a pipe dream.

i on the other hand have no problem complaining about such shit that IMO make this team stagnant and mediocre. but i'll also read and understand other people's content who all the right in the world to give their own opinion. i might shoot back at them but i sure as hell give them mad respect for doing so. if you think this forum is all about cherry kisses and merry-go-rounds then fine for you. but you'd be wrong.

don't want to agree with me? fine. well that's what forums are about. i've formed good internet friendships on this forum and god knows 80% of them don't agree with me.

why not try to come in here, have a drink, relax and understand that what a lot of people say are their schtick.

@the-gipper said:

Just last year, eh?

Getting warmer as far as funny.

@the-gipper said:

I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.

If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.

I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.

But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.

We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.

@alwardc4 said:

Just last year, eh?

@alwardc4 said:

I take it then that MY profanity IS done with thought and is funny. At least that is my opinion.

If you want to hang out with the sissy boys, then by all means, go to your other site and drink milktoast the rest of your days.

I mean, if you want to be a puss....nothing we can do to stop you.

But, if you have reached puberty, you may want to hang here with the grown men.

We will surely make an effort to try to rid you of your boyhood sensitivities.

Manziel's completion percentage on throws of 6 yards or more is 65%

Carr's is 54%

Manziel plays against MUCH better competition.