Zombo said:

Personally I think it is a bunch of horse shit. Refs should not be deciding games.

I don't recall it ever being this bad. Goodell needs to clean this shit up.

I agree, and it seems like we have been saying that since 1986. I would love to get a DC that puts teams away. Horton had a good game plan and then went into "on your heels and hope the clock runs out" mode.

Sick ending. I'm sure fans of other teams just laugh because New England is New England we are just a big joke to everybody ... but it is really tough on those of us that are invested.

Maybe we'll beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh ... we deserve some holiday cheer.

Zombo

@frenchie said:

Forget the past. The clock was reset when we hired Chud.

Teams must learn how to win. Heard this for years before I was convinced of the truth of this.

Step one is to get in the game... to give yourself a chance to win against good competition. We did this today. We did this better today than we have done all season.

Today was a day Chud & Co. can build upon.

@hx214 said:

This. Plus the personal foul on Jordan Cameron on the final drive wasn't called even though the ref was standing right there when Gregory launched himself at Jordan. That would have made it a 43 yd field goal which would have won the game.Even the sportscasters on Sunday Night Football caught that one.

If I'm the owner, I would do something dramatic - not sure what. I think it starts with not being amongst he lowest in the salary cap. Get proven winners. Balance the team with talent on both sides of the ball. Bring in the veterans in key positions to support the youth. Put an angry dog on the helmet. Leave nothing to chance but chance itself.

@letsgojackets said:

Exactly what I thought.

This.

@miktoxic said:

Exactly what I thought.

@lbc-mike said:

expect anything less?

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=331208017

No mention of flags just how great Brady and NE is and poor Gronk.

@nepatriots said:

YOU GOT GIZELLE'S #?

if not ask one of the guys on the DL or OL cuz she and her friends are definitely taking care of biz there pal.

and yes, we should have (and did in all respects) win the game today w/o any question of bad reffing.

but calling a spade a spade, the refs looked like a black 5 card straight flush, ace to ten.

boston blows. lived in medford for a sec, in revere for awhile after getting out of the army. only good thing about boston is their strip clubs. twat in your face. all night long. even though their tits are being stepped on by the MC and she ain't got no teeth cuz she's been suckin beliCHICKS std infested cock for years.

sorry dude. didn't mean to talk about your mom like that. hey, how old are you? do have blonde hair and blue eyes?

call steve grogan and cry on his no longer limp shoulders.

@mathews99 said:

So Fozzy did recover the onside kick like 99.9% of all onside kicks?

@nepatriots said:

It wasn't even certain if he was going to break the tackle yet or not. That was a really premature whistle blow and it should of been a fumble and you know it.

Let's just agree the officiating this season has been awful from top to bottom

Brady throws the ball to your centers feet after dropping two steps and they pick the flag up and say no grounding.

Campbell stands on the NUMBERS and throws the ball to his running back that gets blasted and they call grounding.

Personal foul in the back of the endzone guy leads with his shoulder when the pats need help.

Ball hits 91 of the pats on the onside kick and it's cool pats ball.

Danny A hits a touchdown and throws the ball into the stands. No 15 yard flag.

All Seems legit to you. And you whine to use about a Jets game call.

Seriously guy, get the fuck outta here nobody cares what a pats fan has to say about anything. Go grease up your hair and put on a scarf and watch your hero give his press conference and the national media laugh about how the pats got help and then move on to the next game.

@baconhound said:

We are glad you didn't watch the game to know what the hell you are talking about. It was a royal screwjob by the officials, plain and simple......

@nepatriots said:

The Little fumble was definitely pathetic but from what they showed of the Gordon catch it looked good to me, of course I'm biased.

@bringbackbrownie2 said:

It wasn't even certain if he was going to break the tackle yet or not. That was a really premature whistle blow and it should of been a fumble and you know it.

Let's just agree the officiating this season has been awful from top to bottom

@nepatriots said:

http://www.billsdaily.com/articles/1998/nep2.html

Tuck Rule

Your team broke the new rule on FGs that's why you lost. The play in Carolina was, again, by the book. So in the games this year that you were "hosed" the correct calls were made.

Ticky tack pass interference? He wasn't touched.

@nepatriots said:

I didn't see the Jets game so I can't comment on that, but the Panthers call was correct. Gronkowski didn't even see the pass and wasn't in the play. By rule, pass interference can't be called if it is deemed that the receiver couldn't have made a play on the ball. It's just like an uncatchable ball call. So you can complain about that one, but it was the correct call..

@nepatriots said:

His forward progress was already stopped which is why the whistle blew. Gordon knew the play was over. But even calling that a gift, patriots led in gifts that game at least 15-1. Must feel nice knowing the referees always have your back..

Officials cost us the game this year against the Jets. Officials screwed us in the final seconds against the Panthers.

Last year the replacement officials screwed us really bad with the Ravens in week 3, and even might of given them the win on a field goal that didnt even look good.

@nepatriots said:

Sucks for Gronkowski though.

@the-cysko-kid said:

It was a ticky tacky PI call, no doubt about it, but the ball was right on his finger tips, so if he was even slightly impeded, the defender stopped a TD pass with interference.

I'll have to look at it again. I just think at first glance it was really ticky tacky, and if it happened the other way, I'd be raging.

That said, you guys got some zebra gifts that game too. The whistle blow on that fumble in the first quarter was BS, and that Gordon catch that hit the ground on a critical 1st down for the Browns was BS as well.

What shitty weekend of football, as noted by my two empty captain morgan bottles haha.