Zombo said:

Technically "Viking" is not a reference to an ethnic group. Essentially to "go viking" meant to go raiding. To be a "Viking" did not actually mean being a person of Scandinavian or Nordic descent....but simply meant that you went on raids pillaging and plundering. The term however became so closely associated with Nordic Raiders that it pretty much stuck to them.....but, theoretically you could have "Spanish Vikings" or Italian Vikings.

A reconstructed Viking Age long house

The Old Norse feminine noun víking refers to an expedition overseas. It occurs in Viking Age runic inscriptions and in later medieval writings in set expressions such as the phrasal verb fara í víking "to go on an expedition". In later texts, such as the Icelandic sagas, the phrase "to go on a viking" implies participation in raiding activity or piracy and not simply seaborne missions of trade and commerce. The derived Old Norse masculine noun víkingr appears in Viking Age skaldic poetry and on several rune stones found in Scandinavia, where it refers to a seaman or warrior who takes part in an expedition overseas. The word víking derives from the feminine vík, meaning "creek, inlet, small bay".^[4]

@adoug319 said:

Uhm, FYI, "The Cleveland Browns" is a specific reference to the color of the skin of African-Americans. The Cleveland Browns derive their name from Boxer Joe Louis.....aka "The Brown Bomber". The Brown Bomber being a reference to his skin.

So, if we are being politically correct we would have the following teams in this town:

The Cleveland Native Americans

The Cleveland African Americans

The Cleveland Royalist Supporters of King Charles I

@adoug319 said:

I don't want this to get into a political debate, but you do have a point. "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" should be required reading for every High School student on how our manifest destiny royally screwed the Native Americans, and deposited them on some of the most God-forsaken real estate in the country. For those that don't know, here's a question for you- how did Crazy Horse die? Answer- some smart ass Army private thought it would be cool to stab him in the back on the reservation.

I'll never forget this quote I saw on a plaque in a Real Estate office in Estes Park Colorado from the great Arapaho Chief Red Cloud. "When the White Man came, he made to us many promises, more than I can remember. But he never kept but one. He promised to take our land, and he took it."

@hoorta said:

Thank you

@adoug319 said:

@typicalbrowns said:

I believe it

@poeticg said:

...and been cursed for a long time...

Cursed or real bad Karma- let's see- since 1964 The Drive, The Fumble, 9th inning Choke in Game 7 of the World Series, Le Bron bailing on the Cavs.

Oh, and it's not "Indians" the Native Americans find degrading- It's Chief Wahoo they can't stand. Is the Blackhawks Logo any less degrading?

San Diego St. Aztecs, Michigan St. Spartans, USC Trojans Pennsylvania Quakers, and bunch of "Fighting Scots"...

All ethnic groups.

Zombo

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Gotta love political correctness.

@adoug319 said:

Notre Dame Fighting Irish?

I'm Irish American. I am not in the least bit offended. In any way possible.

Zombo

@adoug319 said:

Oh, stfu.

@adoug319 said:

What is wrong with the name 'Indians'? It isn't insulting at all. That's what they were called. What should we call ourselves, the Cleveland 'Native Americans'?

@footbalfan1962 said:

And Art Modell gets in Hall of Fame, time to let it go guys

Why should I let go of something he stole from this city...it's pride and a couple of championships that shouldve been celebrated here...not baltiwhore...you go kiss his dead asshole if you want

@footbalfan1962 said:

He doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. He was a bumbling owner in Cleveland that went 30 years without getting his team to the Super Bowl before he moved one of the NFL's greatest franchises without so much of a warning.

So ... he was on a committee introduced MNF and he won a Super Bowl with someone else's money after he shafted an entire city? That's his resume? He misses the finalist list again this year ... and it has nothing to with anybody from Cleveland. People around the league see absolutely nothing Hall worthy about him.

Zombo

@adoug319 said:

And Art Modell gets in Hall of Fame, time to let it go guys

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

Well... I hope so. That is one Ohio team I can't root for.

@djdawg2010 said:

Yeah... it was a shitty sports weekend for Ohio sports fans. Unless you're a Bengals fan.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

Yeah... it was a shitty sports weekend for Ohio sports fans. Unless you're a Bengals fan.

@mike-h said:

LOL...

@koalabazooka said:

Not to mention the Blackhawks have won 2 Stanley Cups in the last 4 years...

Beat me to it...

@sundawg said:

Really? I believe the Indians were called the Indians in '64 Squawman.

Not to mention the '48 Tribe...