@canton-mike said:

CB should be high on the list too

great his defense is pulling out a remarkable stat that the Browns defense is #1 in

the league on third and long in the third quarter during November when it is sunny

and the wind is less than 10mph on their home field going south blah,blah,blah.

Mike

@browns149 said:

Behind QB I believe a quality inside LB may be our top draft priority.

@hoorta said:

Holy shite you got that right. I can't believe they let that one go. And I mean that for any team, not just because it was the Stoolers.

Another thing that caught my eye (I only saw the last few minutes of the game, just got back home from the long drive from Cleveland)...the final drive for Cincy to try and stay in the game...Dalton threw to AJ Green and Polamalu had a hand in there chopping at AJ's hands as he was trying to reach for the ball. Last week's Patriots game...McFadden wasn't nearly as aggressive as that and gets the PI call.

@tml1138 said:

well, as long as the Refs are going to let the Squealers take opposing players heads off with no-calls, (took the Bengals punter out with a Campbell style cheap shot)- they;ll be right in the thick of things.

Zombo said:

We suck.

The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

Zombo

We are what our record says we are. The mighty defense yet again can't hold a lead.

@tour2ma said:

And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.

Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.

Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.

excuse me, but no excuse for giving a guy a 10- yard cushion on third and seven.

@bonedawg said:

Yes... No doubt that Haden's loss hurt us.

Also hurt that Forte ran for 127 yds...

@clevfan4life said:

Yup... no shortcuts...

@miktoxic said:

... 2 things were mentioned in the tavern that probably rang true throughout the game. one was the loose zone coverage that we were playing.

BUT anyone who disagrees that we should've never gotten krueger and that we don't need a CB (legit, no miss pick) you are fucking insane.

Well... guess I am officially insane...

And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.

@browns149 said:

Yeah he looked terrible, but it was really windy down there. Cutler was missing throws too

Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.

Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.

@bonedawg said:

They were toast with Haden in there too

Zombo said:

But the gay new mascot had a t-shirt gun shooting crap into the stands.

That will keep the fans coming back LMAO

@browns149 said:

Yes, we blow. Thank you Mr. Holmgrem and Mr. Banner.

Does somebody have a fucking plan? Because having 5 good players and a gay new mascot is not working.

Zombo

Zombo said:

Gordon and Cameron are better then good, the other 3 are good, but 5 players do not make a good team

The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.

Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.

Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.

Zombo

@browns149 said:

We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's

Then put ward or someone with speed in on some plays...I realize our LB's are s;low...but you gotta atleast try...Were making it to0 easy...

@nickers said:

We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's

@nickers said:

Ray Horton still hasnt figured out how to put a spy on the half back continuing our fine tradition of getting bamboozled by bubble screens and pitch outs..Im sick of it!

It's not that he needs a spy as much as we just need a capable ILB. If Horton is going to bring 5-6, that's going to leave an ILB covering the back. Neither Robertson not DQJ have the coverage skills to do that.

We need a sideline to sideline player, once the edges get sealed (which happens routinely with Mingo in), we don't have a player capable of crossing the field to stop stretch runs, off tackle powers, or pitchouts.

On one play, I can't remember exactly who it was but one of our CB's got blasted on a block by Jeffery and could not beat the block, which led to a 15+ yard run off tackle.

In the year before and year since (2010, 2013), the Cardinals are 13-16 and with zero playoff appearances.

It's like he didn't even exist, to be honest. He made zero mark on that franchise.

Obviously not a very fair stat, just something I thought was interesting.

@topdawg31 said:

Yeah, he's stuck here now. He will get interviews because of the Rooney rule but no one is going to hire him

@topdawg31 said:

We need a safety like Palamalu and a LB like Harrison for Hortons D to work

Wee need a DC that doesnt live by the soft zone umbrella defense that gave the game away today in the 4th quater...AGAIN!