@bbedward said:

Idk if Joe Thomas had a pro-bowl year, but he seems like an auto in every year.

Agreed. He doesn't deserve it. Today proved it. Thomas is declaiming.

Just as an aside- What does this and other Browns news, or should I say, how, does this correspond to the new Browns movie coming in April? Surely, Haslam being the businessman that he is will capitalize on any advantages that Chud being on a supposed "hotseat" will entail...

The Browns are LESSER than the sum of their parts.

They have some really talented players at a lot of positions: Pro Bowlers at LT, C, WR, TE, CB, alternate at SS.

They also have some good players on the D Line: Taylor/Rubin

And they have players that should be good at LB: Kruger/Mingo/Sheard.

But two things: 1. Yes, the position QB is not amongst those mentioned above, and 2. Beyond that, for some reason this team just cannot "congeal". Instead of a cohesive group, this talent seems at odds with itself. I am not sure why, but it is.

I don't know if it is coaching, of if these guys just can't get along like they should.

@topdawg31 said:

I'm curious to know if you play for Denver after Jan 1, are you allowed to smoke weed since it will be legal there on Jan 1?

No, because they are still contractually obliged to stay away from marijuana, regardless if it's legal.

Unless the wording of the contract is vague, they won't be able to.

@topdawg31 said:

That´s a question I´ve been thinking about too. I suppose for this season it will still remain the same, but starting next season we´ll have to wait and see how that plays out.

@browns149 said:

Joe Haden was beat all season by lesser Wr's. But he did play well against an injured Calvin Johnson, and an inconsistant Mike Wallace, so I guess he qualifies

Cleveland is also near the top in the league against #1 WR's.

I believe they're giving up something like 40 yards per game to #1's.

But don't let that get in the way of your point.

@browns23 said:

Just curious, last year Haden had a suspension, but was ineligible for the Pro Bowl. So why this year was Gordon available for the Pro Bowl with a suspension? Is it because it was only two games? I'm not complaining I was just wondering about the rules for that.

Haden was ineligible last year because he took Aderall which is performance-enhancing. Gordon's suspension wasnt for a performance enhancer so he doesnt lose eligibilty.

Joe Thomas is an automatic because he's yet to miss a game, maybe even a snap?

Mack was consistent as always except for the one snap.

Gordon redeemed himself and he missed the beginning of the season, what a stud. Probably the best receiver we've had since the return, well worth the second rounder it cost to get him in the supplemental draft. Thank you Tom Heckert, my man!

Jordan Cameron. I knew you had it in you all along! Great job, but I wonder how many records he would have broken had Hoyer played all season? He's still a beast and should be our Dallas Clark for our new Peyton Manning...

@browns149 said:

Haden also totally shut down AJ Green and didn't allow a 100 yard WR all year, so STFU boo bird.

We are the Chiefs of last year, lots of talent with some holes to be filled and a steady hand to guide us.

Alex Mack just got more expensive ... signing a Pro Bowler would make a big splash for another team, let's hope Banner knows you have to spend money on the o-Line if you don't want to get your forthcoming rookie QB killed.

The line has played really well since Pinkston started playing again.

Zombo

BTW Cameron had a great year for the Browns but 2 TDs since week 5 and a lot of garbage time receptions

Thomas had the most penalties of his career and was beat bad a bunch of times

Maybe I'm wrong on Mack but I don't really pay a lot of attention to the center but I do remember the snap heard round the world and we couldn't run the ball at all especially up the middle

And Ward is an alternate.

Apparently being the second rated strong safety in the NFL only is good for an alternate position.