@miktoxic said:

@roycerolls said:

i believe if clowney and/or mathews are available at the 4th pick; the browns may receive a few calls about trading down.

depending on what we get and how far we would have to drop, i wouldnt be against it.

@lbc-mike said:

What are the chances of teams that have their QB trading up to get Watkins? Steelers, Titans, etc..

For some reason I get the feeling that the steelers want Mike Evans.

@gftchris said:

One mock has us getting Manziel at 4 and Beckham at 26. I would be happy with that. Beckham, Jordon and Gordon show me a d that could stop that.

www.fanspeak.com/ontheclock

@darren15 said:

meh, if watkins is gone i would consider mathews or clowney at that point

@lbc-mike said:

What are the chances of teams that have their QB trading up to get Watkins? Steelers, Titans, etc..

no way would i trade with the steelers unless they give a up a similiar price that washington paid for RG3. the titans i would consider because they are not in our division.

@lbc-mike said:

or clowney?

someone might make the brown's infamous trade a pick to move up one slot to get him.

@lbc-mike said:

More chances of them going after clowney or Matthews, but I guess it's possible.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1906095-2014-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-complete-7-round-projections

@miktoxic said:

What a draft class tho!!! Thomas, Calvin, Peterson, Willis, Reeves, and lynch all inside the top 15. Gms doin work for sure that year. Fuck Qbs in the first.

@jeffinwv said:

Lmfao...u really think ap is the household name he is now if the Browns drafted him. If so he wouldn't still b here. Use your fucking head dude. I

@lbc-mike said:

Yeah so lets let all the best QBs get drafted and then draft a QB later on and hope he sucks less than Weeden.

@clevfan4life said:

Ah so you want to play for next years draft eh? There are some good QBs in this draft, there is no Andrew Luck but how many drafts have an Andrew Luck. Thi is going to boil down to how the Browns FO grades out the QB position. If they believe they are all about equal then I dont see a trade down. However, if they think there are one or two guys in this QB class that stand above the rest then a trade up must be down. BTW I believe we stick with the 3-4 after signing Bryant and Kruger to big deals, especially Kruger who is not a 4-3 LB.

I don't want to see the Browns take Manziel at 4. It's a reach to take him there. Trading up from the Indy pick wouldn't be the end of the world though. I'm pretty firmly in the Watkins boat but there are other WRs I like in the draft that could be there with the Indy pick. Cooks from Oregon St, Mathews from Vandy or Allen Robinson from PSU could be there. They could also get snatched up between 13-23 and were stuck. In the fanspeak mock draft I've been able to get Watkins and Carr in the first round. Not sure how likely that is.

Trading the entire draft for Watkins, Manziel and Hyde is ridiculous though. We will be able to draft Watkins and Hyde with the picks we already have. The only one we would need to trade up for is Manziel. He is not worth 8 picks. The ability to draft a Mosley, Skov, or Borland at ILB or a Cyril Richardson at G. An Abbrederis or Gallon at slot, A Morgan Moses at Tackle, A Justin Gilbert type CB or an Aaron Lynch late is too great. It's not ridiculous to see us draft 5 starters in this draft.

I don't like trading up in this draft but if Bridgewater or Clowney is sitting there at 4 they would be hard to pass up.

@jeffinwv said:

really? sure talk about AP compared to joe thomas, not a fair comparison. JT has been a consensus probowler since his rookie year.

show me the other QBs, WRs and RBs since he's been drafted that you can say that about in that same draft class and later?

waiting.............................chirp chirp

@suomi said:

I understand - the front office wants their guy. But if either of those QB's are chosen by the Browns, the Factory of Sadness will continue.

I have to disagree, especially regarding Bridgewater because he has enough height to bulk up by 10-15 pounds to increase his ability to take hits. The kid has exemplary talent between his ears, he is the anti-Weeden, and the Browns will add at least four wins with that pick alone.

@shep said:

I understand - the front office wants their guy. But if either of those QB's are chosen by the Browns, the Factory of Sadness will continue. A fragile QB watching from the sideline on crutches or with an arm in a sling just wastes a premium draftpick.

I'd rather get an elite player (Watkins) then a QB that "might" be good. We already have a QB that might be good - his name is Brian Hoyer. With both Gordon and Watkins as targets, and Cam Jordan and a decent pass-catching RB out of the backfield torturing linebackers, the NFL-quality offense we saw with Hoyer under center will be an exciting show playing every week.

Yes, the Browns will add WRs, perhaps in the draft AND in free agency. It's not priority #1, especially with two Pro Bowl pass catchers and Dion Lewis returning to catch out of the backfield. It MIGHT be our 25th pick but more likely it's early round 2.

Manziel closed so strong, I really think McNair would love to keep him in Texas and sell out every game. We'd heard earlier in the season that Houston would take Manziel "anywhere, including #1," and now McNair is all but shopping the pick to the Browns. BUT... temper that with Alo telling me he doesn't seem like a Bill O'Brien kind of QB. O'Brien likes big guys so they could trade for Mallett or draft Bortles (maybe at 4).

So the Browns might pick first overall... or fourth... and it could be Bridgewater or Manziel... but yeah, it's gonna be a QB.

Then...

1a - Watkins

1b - Yankey

2 - Best 3-down RB (Seastrunk, etc.)

3 - ILB with coverage smarts and skills

4 - James Wilder, Jr., big back with high ceiling

5 - CJ Copeland, FB, LSU (280lbs of FB!!!)