At this point, I'll be happy to see the Browns get Quinn or Pettine. If they can't land either of those two guys now, my suggestion is to look for a college coach with a demonstrated ability for building a team from the dirt up (Cutcliffe, etc.).

@ballpeen said:

I was referring to your short hairs

@miktoxic said:

I just don't think that Russ feels the need to tear his hair out over this. Chud was probably not a good hire...but then the perception is that he wasn't really given a chance to succeed with a lot of the circumstances that happened with this team. But, on the other hand, he...and his underlings did blow a lot of chances for victory.

Peen also is not in panic mode over this coach hiring situation. And I agree with him. We will get a guy....and who knows, even if that guy is the Browns 4th/5th/6th choice he may turn out to be the best choice.

(I know....you can point to the track record and say that that hasn't happened so far with this team)

@ballpeen said:

See below ' Peen.

@pumpkin-eater said:

Oh I know. Candidates are always taking themselves out of consideration for head coaching jobs in the nfl. It's perfectly normal. Happens all the time to every team, right? There's no reason to be concerned.

Exactly- the analogy is selling a house- if you show it to X number of qualified potential buyers- and they all walk away saying "not interested", there's obviously something wrong with the house. That's what I'm saying 'Peen, there's something seriously amiss in Brownstown.

I'm not in "sky is falling mode" - yet. But should Quinn turn them down, Banner is going to have to pull a freaking miracle out of his ass to find anyone better or more qualified than Chud was. Not to mention replacing the OC & DC with candidates more qualified than Norv and Horton. At that point, might as well go right down the line, call up every OC and DC in the NFL who hasn't been recently hired, ask them if they're interested, put the names in a hat, pull one out and say "Congratulations!! You've just won the HC job with the Cleveland Clowns, managed by the Three Stooges." Or, they could hold a press conference and say "we seriously f**ked up" and re-hire Chud- assuming he'd want to come back.

@miktoxic said:

Maybe he can talk some sense into Jimmy............The draft has me terrified Hopefully bp is right, and the next coach will be worth the wait.

@d-bone said:

nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

@ballpeen said:

Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

@ballpeen said:

I do not think that our voicing our displeasure on a search that has obviously not gone as planned is "sky is falling" . To assume that all of the people on the short list were turned down by our FO is naive. We may end up with the greatest head coach of all time and I damn sure hope that is what happens. Having said that equally as frustrating as chicken little is people who's heads are buried in the sand with undue optimism.

but to have no backup plan from point A to point B is just bad management/personnel department decision making.

so if quinn says no, THEN they'll be a cause for concern? or when they hire BGSU or Toledo HC and say that was the guy they wanted all along?

I am not saying that Mcdoofus and Gase were not on their short list. What I am saying is that they were obviously not the right guy for the job. If they flip-flop on what they want to do in regard to taking interviews, what kind of decision making are they really capable of. We've already seen that Josh McDaniels is not exactly a fantastic head coach prospect. And Gase is simply along for the ride as long as Manning can keep carrying him. Not many people on here really seemed to want either of them anyway. So why now are we bitching about them backing out? I personally think the biggest mistake made in all this was not putting Lovie on the short list. I do think their original thoughts were ruined already, but I would now rather see them take their time and explore all possibilities and hopefully make the right choice! Would you rather them make a kneejerk decision?

@lcdawgfan13 said:

You really believe they planned on NOT landing McDaniels or Gase? I think that is between overly optimistic and naive. Jimmy realizes the fans are onto that and that is why he issued his very thinly veiled damage control apology to the fans. If you think at this point they are not settling for people who were not on their shortlist you are drinking the koolaid for sure.

As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

C',mon Quinn.... please...

@londonbrown said:

LOL, you just figured that out? No insult intended.

It started with firing Chud- probably the worst coaching firing since Modell let Marty walk, or the Paul Brown firing. LOL, you want to talk about a track record, look at who he let go- Brown, Marty and Bellchick. One is in the HOF, Bill is a mortal lock when he hangs 'em up, and Marty is a near miss- he only needed a SB win to join the club.

The Browns FO is now officially up shit creek without a paddle. Should (last chance) Quinn turn them down, they're going to have zero credibility with the fans, and as others have suggested at that point Haslam's best move would be to totally clean house and send Banner and Lombardi out the door too.

@hoorta said:

Shhhh. You aren't allowed to post logic on this forum.

@djdawg2010 said:

Sorry you won't be able to cherry-pick who stays and who goes. For those who think otherwise it's a damn fact Haslam is sinking $60 million of his own money into stadium improvements (though it's a low interest loan from the NFL) Sin tax extension will pay for the rest. You can also bet in exchange for ponying up the cash, the City of Cleveland is going to demand an extension on the lease.

If some of you want to dream a fairly smart businessman like Jimmy would sink that much of his own money into First Energy only to uproot the team, well, you must be smoking the good stuff you got on a road trip to Colorado.

@cuwoohio said:

????

@djdawg2010 said:

Good! I say send this clusterfuck organization posing as the Cleveland Browns to Los Angeles, and COMPLETELY hit the damn reset button! Hey why not? If we're gonna keep blowing it up, why not do it right, and start completely over again with a whole new Cleveland Browns team? As it stands this current organization is an embarrassment and has made a complete mockery of a great football tradition! Let's lobby the NFL! Though we do get to keep Haden, Mack, Thomas, Ward, Gordon, and Hoyer. The rest can go!

There won't be a reset button on any future move. (I'm assuming this wasn't supposed to be pink font).