@the-gipper said:

^^^^^

this

@babernakle said:

Well, unfortuneatly, it is because the Browns always are bad. Start kicking ass and that will change.

@hoorta said:

I still watch Survivor, it is still really the same as it has always been which is a solid show somewhat about human nature.

But the reason they don't ship it off to one of those places is that one of the attractions of it is that they can show young women without much clothes on.

This year they probably had a young chick on their with the biggest tits ever on the show. She just got voted out last week

@clevfan4life said:

Getting back to media stuff, yup- ESPN really doesn't care what people in the Heartland want to hear or see- especially if they're showing it. Like I really needed to hear driving around yesterday (I changed the station after 5 minutes) that Derek Jeeter was being "rested" for the big game against the Red Sox. Flipping back- that was 10 minutes of run about the Yankees. The Brewers have the best record in baseball and they're getting 1\10 the air time.

@miktoxic said:

it's amazing how the word 'reality' is now mis-construed to mean the opposite of it's true definition.

these 'reality' shows are more scripted than day-time soap operas.

Yes, thanks for confirming what I suspected. Survivor may be a little different, but I haven't watched an episode in years- time to send that franchise off to Bikini Atoll in the Pacific, and nuke it. Now if they had Survivor Everest- or Survivor Antarctica where they are dying off, I might be interested.

Formerly Sane said:

Go fuck yourself troll !

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Off topic but oh well. You know why I hate that show man? Because it's giving my soon to be wife ridiculous expectations of what our first house should look like haha. I'm a pretty handy guy and I enjoy simple DIY projects (new fixtures, painting, etc) but I'm pretty sure my fiance expects an amazing kitchen and gas fireplace because of that show. I can already feel my wallet shrinking.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I would rather shoot myself than do it myself. Hiring someone....OK.

@the-gipper said:

I prefer House Hunters. Looking for a nice house is OK. Anytime you have these shows about doing repairs and rehab to housing just gets to me because I am so inept about that sort of thing.

House Hunters bothers me because it gets repetitive. There's a drinking game somewhere on the internet with things like "Drink every time they ask for an open concept" or "take a shot whenever the wife thinks the place is too expensive".

I love renovating, that's probably why I love Prop Bros. I'd rather renovate than buy new.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I prefer House Hunters. Looking for a nice house is OK. Anytime you have these shows about doing repairs and rehab to housing just gets to me because I am so inept about that sort of thing.

these 'reality' shows are more scripted than day-time soap operas.

@hoorta said:

Well, I have watched some Bravo programming in the past: Top Chef, Top Design, Project Runway before it switched.

But yea, a lot of their other stuff is just sucky.

@the-gipper said:

Thankfully, you haven't been sucked into the garbage that Bravo! passes off as entertainment.Real Housewives of ________ pick a city. Barf.

@clevfan4life said:

They are losing some of that monopoly. Both Fox and NBCSports now have channels similar to ESPN. You can get an alternative voice elsewhere. I still mostly watch ESPN, but I am checking out these other venues more and more often.

@hoorta said:

It is, but the same logic is the reason the Kardashians are popular and local news is either about someone being shot or a puppy adoption. It's all about pandering to the lowest common denominator.

@miktoxic said:

Add Houston, Atlanta, Chicago to that.

this isnt some heavy moral dilemma.....it's about paying bills in the real world. furthermore, it's their show and they owe you nothing.

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@hoorta said:

I don't think it is a statement about the intelligence of the fans, it is a statement about the mindset of the TV networks......nothing matters but ratings and money.

Now, the fact that we have the likes of Honey BooBoo, Duck Dynasty, Swamp People etc. etc.....all these ridiculous shows about ignorant rednecks (or guys that want to come off as ignorant rednecks).....that is what is such a poor statement on the intelligence level of TV viewers.

@jrb12711 said:

If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.

Think of when we had lebron In cleveland, didnt we have a 3 ring circus with espn in the center of it (magazine cover comes to mind).

In fact the media loves an underdog and I remember year after year many analysts pciking cleveland to be most improved team in the afcn. We havent earned shit. When we do, it will come.

big money markets LA DALLAS NY BOSTON MIAMI.

the only thing that could have out-trumped jeter's last home day opener was MAYBE to have a pitcher pitching a perfect game and it still would have come in 2nd or 3rd on their priority list especially if the team was in milwaukee or cleveland. and that's not a diss. it's just the way it is.

to me it's sickening. i know jeter is the next joe dimaggio in yankee fan's eyes...............it will be nice to see him go as he's the last of the 'core 4'.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.