@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

so you're telling me there's a chance. (btw, the first 0.00 - 0.13 is all you).

@hoorta said:

Your point is taken TC, but compared to Wee-done, he looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. I don't recall him tossing any underhand lob passes to the other team, and generally got the ball out on time to a guy who was actually open.

"He's better than Weeden" doesn't mean "he's a starter".

@hoorta said:

Your point is taken TC, but compared to Wee-done, he looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. I don't recall him tossing any underhand lob passes to the other team, and generally got the ball out on time to a guy who was actually open.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Your point is taken TC, but compared to Wee-done, he looked like the second coming of Joe Montana. I don't recall him tossing any underhand lob passes to the other team, and generally got the ball out on time to a guy who was actually open.

@babernakle said:

Where a quarterback is from doesn't matter.

Hoyer won two games against very poor or injury riddled secondaries.

This "Cleveland boy" bullshit is played out. I don't care if he crawled out of Terry Bradshaw's asshole, if a QB can play, he can play.

@roycerolls said:

this guy has the Buccaneers selecting Bortles? Am I missing something, are they giving up on Glennon already?

Don't think so, I wouldn't bet on them taking a 1st round qb.

@hoorta said:

this guy has the Buccaneers selecting Bortles? Am I missing something, are they giving up on Glennon already?

@mike-h said:

Mike, I'm really not against some of the top 2014 qbs- it's just that Manziel scares the hell out of me- in many different ways. I certainly don't think any of them are worth a trade up. Really, what are the odds qbs are going to go 1-2-3 come May? I could even hold my nose and accept us taking Johnny Football @ #4, though I wouldn't like it. Damn near a lock someone is either taking Clowney in the top 3, or will trade up to do so. I do like Teddy B- he sort of reminds me of Randall Cuningham in a way. Bortles has the size, but does he have NFL accuracy?

@ #26 Carr worries me- to be honest, I haven't watched that much of him, but if the reports are true he shows an acute case of Brandon Weedenitis with pressure in his face, it's time to steer clear. I wouldn't have a problem if we took Garrapolo at the top of the second- the reports from Southern Ohio are the Bengals are taking a long hard look at him for their second round pick.

& yes, let's hope the Browns have a good enough 2014 that drafting Mariotta or Winston isn't a realistic option. We were so close in so many games- should never have lost the New England game, and bumbling Brandon cost us at least another couple, though you really can't fault Chud for starting him after he had a decent preseason.

PS if the draft falls out like this I'm going to be really happy http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/190602

@mike-h said:

Well. Mike one of my friends happens to be a Ducks alum, and has seen every one of his games- good enough for a scouting report? Incidentally, he was worried Marcus might wind up on the Browns if he came out. The short of it is he's a bigger 6'4" faster (reported 4.5 40) version of Manziel, there are similarities in style. Threw for 30+ tds with only 4 ints, so extremely accurate. Does not have Elway arm strength, but it's plenty good enough. Only weakness is in making pre snap reads. Game fell off after a knee injury late in the season.

So if you talk to your scouting contacts, I think you would find the majority of them would have Mairotta right at the top of the 2014 board- it was no secret Farmed loved what he saw of the kid before he got promoted to GM. Next year, he's probably second fiddle to Winston.

Zombo said:

You still have to play the game Z. And if the Jets had lost, Joe Willey would have looked like the biggest douchebag in New York.

@walterwhite said:

Manziel is a fucking star

@hoorta said:

To my knowledge, swagger has never won a football game.

Super Bowl III !

Z

@bbedward said:

To my knowledge, swagger has never won a football game.

@mike-h said:

Mike, I will be (almost) nice- though I had a mind to not be. We've had guys come in here with more credentials than you- and not go calling out everyone else as stupid. You insecure or something citing all those guys you hang out with at the bar?

Tell ya what- some of the greatest geniuses in their respective professions I know don't have to go around flaunting how fucking smart they are, or who they fucking know. That's what you come off as on the board. You have takes on the top 2014 crop of qbs? Great- then post them here- I'm hardly going to bother following links to 10 different websites. .

@walterwhite said:

^ That's what the fuck I'm talking about.

Put some fucking swag back into this city.

Enough of the barrel assed, balding, critic haters. Always scratching their ass, picking their nose and never wanting anyone edgy here.

Manziel and Lee are a great fucking duo

All we need is swag.

nothings more gayer than your avatar.

what's your favorite movie 'princess bride'?

i didn't know i just binged it. lol.

@clevelandmilidh said:

Uhm, that is only 7. One more.

@walterwhite said:

So your definition of what we need is "edgy"?? Your definition of edgy being a egotistical party boy who if winning will be Mr Swag but if he doenst work out will turn into a whiner pussy?? You think because a player is hollywood night clubbin and loving on the rap he will dominate? Fuck swag just pick a winner.

Apparently your full head of hair makes you an authority on the subject as well?

@walterwhite said:

You busted the guys balls earlier because he was full of shit and didnt know which quarterbacks would suck. It is the same for you, you have no fucking clue which ones will be good. You CAN acquire a QB at your leisure, or more well phrased "without stretching" for your pick. You continue to add the best available talent to your team. One thing I am certain of is that you, just like me , don't really know fuck all about which QB's succeed from this draft and which don't.

Saying to just take whatever QB falls to you at 4 is simply fucking dumb unless you absolutely love the guy. If you don't then he is not worthy of being a number 4.

The one point we agree on is its not worth trading multiple picks to move up for any of them.

@the-gipper said:

Yale, Harvard, Cornell, Penn, Brown, Princeton, Columbia

@diehardbrownsfan said:

NFP Mock Draft 1.0

By Greg Gabriel3 hours ago

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NFP Mock Draft 1.0

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By: Greg Gabriel and Eric Galko

As many of you know, I am not a lover of Mock Drafts, especially this early in the Draft season because we just don’t have enough information. We are still over two weeks away from the start of free agency, and most, if not all, clubs' draft plans center around what happens to their team with regards to veteran gains and losses. Once we get through the first few weeks of free agency, we will have a better idea of what each club's needs are going into the Draft.

That being said, Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting and myself have put together our post-Combine Mock. Eric made the selections for all the teams drafting in an odd numbered slot, and I did the same with the even numbered picks. We took needs into consideration, but tried to select the best player available with each pick. Neither of us were aware of the other's picks ahead of time. There were plenty of players I was looking to select for my teams that Eric selected with his picks. This may have have led to some out-of-the-box picks on both our parts.

Both Eric and I hope you enjoy our Mock 1.0 and we will do another, once we get a handle on free agency. Our next mock will also include some comments as to why each pick was made.

1 – Houston – Jadeveon Clowney – DE – South Carolina

2 – St. Louis – Greg Robinson – OT – Auburn

3 – Jacksonville – Teddy Twatwater – QB – Louisville

4 – Cleveland – Johnny Manziel – QB – Texas A&M

5 – Oakland – Sammy Watkins – WR – Clemson

6 – Atlanta – Khalil Mack – OLB – Buffalo

7 – Tampa Bay – Jake Matthews – OT – Texas A&M

8 – Minnesota – Justin Gilbert – DC – Oklahoma State

9 – Buffalo – Anthony Barr – OLB – UCLA

10 – Detroit – Taylor Lewan – OT – Michigan

11 – Tennessee – Ha Ha Clinton-Dix – DS – Alabama

12 – Giants – Eric Ebron – TE – North Carolina

13 – St. Louis – Calvin Pryor – DS – Louisville

14 – Chicago – Aaron Donald – DT – Pittsburgh

15 – Pittsburgh – Louis Nix – NT – Notre Dame

16 – Dallas – Timmy Jernigan – DT – Florida St.

17 – Baltimore – Jace Amaro – TE – Texas Tech

18 – Jets – Mike Evans – WR – Texas A&M

19 – Miami – Zach Martin – OT – Notre Dame

20 – Arizona – Kyle Fuller – CB – Virginia Tech

21 – Green Bay – C.J. Mosely – LB – Alabama

22 – Philadelphia – Darqueze Dennard – CB – Michigan St

23 – Kansas City – Odell Beckham Jr. – WR – LSU

24 – Cincinnati – Kony Ealy – DE – Missouri

25 – Cleveland – Marqise Lee – WR – USC

26 – San Diego - Dee Ford – DE/OLB – Auburn

27 – New Orleans – Jeremiah Attaochu – DE/OLB – Georgia Tech

28 – Carolina – Brandin Cooks – WR – Oregon St

29 – New England – Troy Niklas – TE – Notre Dame

30 – San Francisco – Ra’Shede Hagaman – DT – Minnesota

31 – Denver – Bradley Roby – CB – Ohio State

32 – Seattle – Ryan Shazier – LB – Ohio State

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This story originally appeared on Nationalfootballpost.com

man if that were to actually happen i would take mack and trade up to get evans #18 using 3rd rounder.