@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Dream scenario:

#4- Blake Bortles-QB- UCF

Obviously.

#26- Kelvin Benjamin- WR- FSU

Huge. Red zone target. Wouldn't mind Allen Robinson instead. Could give us Marshall/Jeffery-esque tandem.

#35- Marcus Roberson- CB- UF

Physical. Able to play on island. Solid speed and hip fluidity as well.

#71-Christian Jones- ILB- FSU

Can play at any LB position. Solid talent.

#83-Antonio Richardson- T- UT

Gives us bookend tackle. Free to move Schwartz inside. Also good insurance in case of Thomas injury, knock on wood.

#106- Shayne Skov- ILB- Stanford

Potential to be poor man's Kuechly-esque ILB. Downhill tackler. Loud and physical.

#127- Tajh Boyd- QB- Clemson

Good project QB. Faced solid teams, put up solid numbers, decent measurables.

#145-Andre Williams-RB- Boston College

Could be a poor man's Marshawn Lynch. Physical, big, doesn't go down on first contact, sticks leg into ground and makes cuts. Good pile pusher at times.

Rounds 6-7: BPA by physicality/potential instead of by statistical performance.

I can dig this TCPO. Here is the thing with Bottles: he needs to sit a bare minimum 10 games if we draft him, unless he absolutely annihilates Hoyer in a QB competition (and even then we need to very slowly ease him into the system and gradually introduce new concepts and responsibilities). Bortles is raw but not nearly as raw as he is portrayed by the media and many analysts. He called audibles and kill plays at the LOS in college, has decent a decent understanding of reading defenses, and has played in personnel packages similiar to what you would see in the pros. That being said, he is the type of player that has such a fantastic ceiling and physical skill set that he could easily be sabotaged and ruined by forcing to much on his plate too early and too fast.

Kelvin Benjamin. Love him. He is a less polished Evans who needs to work on sveral things but could ultimately end up being just as good as Evans. I have faith that Farmer is going to make the right decisions. Here is to hoping that he gets the chance to take the players he wants for this team ans is not forced to settle in the early rounds.

#4- Blake Bortles-QB- UCF

Obviously.

#26- Kelvin Benjamin- WR- FSU

Huge. Red zone target. Wouldn't mind Allen Robinson instead. Could give us Marshall/Jeffery-esque tandem.

#35- Marcus Roberson- CB- UF

Physical. Able to play on island. Solid speed and hip fluidity as well.

#71-Christian Jones- ILB- FSU

Can play at any LB position. Solid talent.

#83-Antonio Richardson- T- UT

Gives us bookend tackle. Free to move Schwartz inside. Also good insurance in case of Thomas injury, knock on wood.

#106- Shayne Skov- ILB- Stanford

Potential to be poor man's Kuechly-esque ILB. Downhill tackler. Loud and physical.

#127- Tajh Boyd- QB- Clemson

Good project QB. Faced solid teams, put up solid numbers, decent measurables.

#145-Andre Williams-RB- Boston College

Could be a poor man's Marshawn Lynch. Physical, big, doesn't go down on first contact, sticks leg into ground and makes cuts. Good pile pusher at times.

Rounds 6-7: BPA by physicality/potential instead of by statistical performance.

I like Baptiste as a beast FS type player. Of course, Pettine said that the safeties in our new system are kinda different in that they aren't the typical FS/SS combo. I think a player with the Physicality of SJB and his insane vertical makes him ideal in covering the taller TEs and WRs that are around now.

I would think he'd be worth it in the second. We could always trade our extra third and a fourth rounder to move back into the second. We have a low third and then we have Pitts third rounder as well.

@4 - Derek Carr(he will be a franchise QB)

@26 - Take Dennard or Gilbert if they fall, maybe even Pryor. If none are left go for the WR in Kelvin Benjamin or the OG in Yankey.

2nd Round - what about a Tre Mason or Carlos Hyde here?

3rd Round - take Stanley Jean-Baptise, a large CB capable of covering taller receivers.

Chris Borland could be a good ILB, maybe take a chance on him.

That would take care of QB, WR/OG, RB, CB and MLB. Then in the fourth we've gotta take one of those FBs coming out.

the nightmare scenario for me is if someone trades up in front of us and takes the guy farmer wants and leaves us with no trade down partner and he has to 'settle' for a guy.

I wouldn't use the #4 pick on Mack. He's another undersized OLB who needs to put on weight and add strength to become an elite pass-rusher. If we go that direction, which I hope we don't, I see it being more realistically used on Clowney who seems more NFL-ready, but in all likelihood he'll be gone...

If the rumors are true about our interest in D.Jackson, it shows that the team wants to upgrade our WR2 spot significantly, but it also tells me we don't want to use our first pick to do so...

I wouldn't use the #4 pick on Watkins. As posted before, if he pans out we'll be paying $20+ million a year to keep him and Gordon around in a few years, and we still aren't sure we'd have a QB to get those guys the ball...

I think the #4 pick almost HAS to be a QB. We have picks #26 and #35 to add a WR and CB (which based on the rumors regarding Revis, I believe is another position we try and upgrade significantly). Why waste that early of a pick on your 5th OLB or your WR2? I'd rather have a guy who can get in there and at least compete to become our franchise QB - and I see 2 possibilities... Bortles or Bridgewater.

Dream scenerio - #4 Bortles, #26 Benjamin/Robinson/Fuller., #35 Robinson/Matthews/Roberson

Nighmare scenerio - #1 Bortles, #2 Clowney, #3 Bridgewater... If we are in this position, I would try my damndest to trade out of our spot b/c we'd be reaching for anybody to fill a need at this point, and drafting BPA would leave us with the OP's question? Mack or Watkins... I say neither...

@hoorta said:

Only problem Gunner- and Mike H has been harping on it- Mack's natural position is OLB- and the Browns are loaded there.

Yeah- Watkins might be overkill- but tell that to Atlanta who traded a boatload to the Browns to get Julio Jones, when they already had Roddy White. We give up nothing to do that. Watkins will be on a relatively cheap rookie contract for years too.

Or would you rather we wait until the second round and potentially wind up with another Mohammed Massivedrop, Slowbiski or our current Butterfingers Braylon wannabe Little? I wouldn't rule out the Browns going qb @ #4, which means they would pick a wr @ #26.

The Falcons are a great example and I thank you for bringing them up.

Even WITH a franchise QB, the Falcons haven't been able to make it to the Super Bowl with two strong WR's.

Jones is still on his rookie contract, but both he an Roddy White will be FA's next season and I don't see Atlanta being able to keep both. White is already commanding 7 mil a year and Jones 4, a modest number. New contracts will see each eating up at least 6 mill of cap in their first year, probably.

Further, there's just as much of a chance that Watkins busts. Just because he's proclaimed to be the next big WR doesn't mean he will be, as you should well know. Just as we could get a MoMass in round 2, we could also get an Alshon.

Kelvin Benjamin or Allen Robinson would be fantastic picks in the second. Both are large redzone targets, Benjamin at 6'5 has the body to box out defenders and could even be flexed in on 2TE Sets, while Robinson at 6'3 has 40 inches of vert and can literally catch balls thrown over the crossbar.

Robinson could have caught that ball Weeden rocketed into the stands against the Ravens.

This is a good breakdown with video. I don't care who did the breakdown, it's still good.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2014/01/2014-nfl-draft-player-profiles-penn-state-wr-allen-robinson/

RAVENS FAN 1965 said:

RAVENS FAN 1965 said:

If you're just here to piss on Browns fans, that will be your first and last post.

RAVENS FAN 1965 said:

Honestly who really gives a fuck who the fake cleveland browns select. You people who root for this joke of a franchise are a bunch of mindless sheep.

4. Evans

26. Manziel

35. Stanley Jean-Baptiste

3rd. Jordan Tripp

After that we draft a G, FB, S and another QB like Mettenberger, Fales, or Murray.

@the-gipper said:

I agree, Mack would not be moved to ILB (per Pettine) - a Watkins/Shazier 1st round would be a pretty incredible pull -

@osiris said:

But I would say that our far greater area of need is MLB. We got a topnotch #1 WR, a Pro Bowler at TE. We have Hawkins now, and Benjamin, and Josh Cooper and even Greg Little still.

We got diddly squat at MLB....except Craig Robertson....the Greg Little of the defense.

But....I will note what has been mentioned already: Mack may not be an ILB. More of an outside guy.

Maybe better to take Watkins and try to get a Shazier or the like later on.

@miktoxic said:

I agree with this assessment. I'd rather us get the jump ball specialist than another guy who brings nearly the same skill set we already have. If would could trade down and still get Evans, i'd be happy.

yeah watkins is a guy that can catch a screen and take it a mile, but so is dixon at RB or hawkins or benjamin at WR. if there is a deal to be had to move down to 9 or 10 and pick up evans and garner another pick (having the guy they covet gone @4) i take that deal in a second and draft evans.

he is by far the other biggest game changer at WR in the draft. big, great hands, with the height and weight to take any kind of ball out of the air thrown to him. just go back and look at the combine, or to all you manziel fans, look at the last 2 years at OKST.

this in my book is my second no brainer, which i'd rather see happen than adding another DE or some 'iffy' QB. then again wtf do i know EXCEPT that our second pick BETTER be a CB to play opposite haden. how many years are we just going to let some under-sized scrubs play opposite a pro-bowl corner when most teams in the league nowadays have 2-3 threats at TE and WR on the field every down?

GuNNerGatSKy said:

Only problem Gunner- and Mike H has been harping on it- Mack's natural position is OLB- and the Browns are loaded there.

Yeah- Watkins might be overkill- but tell that to Atlanta who traded a boatload to the Browns to get Julio Jones, when they already had Roddy White. We give up nothing to do that. Watkins will be on a relatively cheap rookie contract for years too.

Or would you rather we wait until the second round and potentially wind up with another Mohammed Massivedrop, Slowbiski or our current Butterfingers Braylon wannabe Little? I wouldn't rule out the Browns going qb @ #4, which means they would pick a wr @ #26.