<![CDATA[Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank]]>Okay. Don't take it to the bank.

But, the Browns will draft:

#4 - Jake Matthews, or Robinson, if Jake is gone already.

Why? Because the Browns need to upgrade RT, and move Swartz inside.

And, the Browns need somebody to also back up Joe Thomas.

God forbid Joe gets hurt, because the Browns chances of

having their offense work goes down the drain.

Joe has played with no backup. Adding Jake would solidy RT for years,

and give the Browns an option to flip Jake to LT if they

had to.

Any OT in this draft besides one of these two guys, won't be

what they need. They will have bookend tackles, an upgrade at ROG,

and Rob Rang? has Bridgewater falling to the Browns at 26, believe it or not.

That would leave the second round pick to be Kyle Fuller, cb, if he's there,

or some other cb.

I'll be at the draft party with Canton Mike, and it's going to be a crazy draft,

full of surprises.

Though, I'd love to add Beckham, or Landry, wrs, to the Browns roster in

the first round.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Bortles. If Bortles isn't available, start over. Then take Bortles.

That's how I do it in Madden.

Lol. I actually laughed out loud at this, perfect.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397732https://brownsboard.com/post/397732Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:48:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:24:02 GMT]]>I think that is true though and something everybody needs to remember. There is no such thing as a conclusive slots, tiers or rounds that players "should" go in. If a team likes a player and MUST have that player to fit their vision going forward, you can't sit around and wait for a player to go in his place. If you really want a player, rounds and slotting be damned, you take that player.

I think that's what we should do anyways.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397714https://brownsboard.com/post/397714Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:24:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:30:39 GMT]]>Bortles. If Bortles isn't available, start over. Then take Bortles.

That's how I do it in Madden.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397544https://brownsboard.com/post/397544Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:30:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 18:41:40 GMT]]>With the signing of Burleson we're now setup to take the BPA. I wouldn't be shouting if they took Robinson. We have arguably the best LT in the game, adding a guy that could become the best RT in the game and also move over to LT if needed is invaluable. Our offensive line has sucked ass for so long it would be nice to see our QB's not have to run for their lives on every down. And also get some push in our running game. Would be nice. That being said...if Clowney is there at #4, kind of have to take him. If Mack is there you have to take him IF and only IF Pettine thinks this kid has the brains to move to ILB and eventually captain the team.

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@diehardbrownsfan said:

Johnny Football has already purchased a home in Strongsville.

Actually, LeBron has a whole wing of his house in Bath that he is going to let Johnny sublet.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397435https://brownsboard.com/post/397435Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:36:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:47:52 GMT]]>JF is mobile enough to play RT, but.....

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@miktoxic said:

tick tock.

32 days.

i think A LOT of people will be surprised by what our FO will do, some not so much.

Johnny Football has already purchased a home in Strongsville.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397384https://brownsboard.com/post/397384Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:33:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 00:24:08 GMT]]>tick tock.

32 days.

i think A LOT of people will be surprised by what our FO will do, some not so much.

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

They can get a bookend tackle in the third.

Yup. We do need to pick up an OG- somewhere.

@canton-mike said:

Agreed. A productive OL needs to function as a cohesive UNIT with all parts of that unit buying into the system. Individual "star power" doesn't necessarily guarantee teamwork.

Mike

^+1

@mike-h said:

Very good, analytical piece on why drafting "elite" OL at the top of the draft is a mistake.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2019051-2014-nfl-draft-why-offensive-linemen-are-valued-high

Riddle was a former NFL player, and a heck of an analyst at B/R now. He interviewed Ted Sundquist, the former GM of the Broncos for this article.

Cal, it's nuts to spend the #4 overall on an insurance policy should Thomas get hurt, and stick him at RT. This draft is loaded with playmakers- guys who will have far more impact on the Browns W-L record than a RT ever would. I'd say it's 99.99% certain the Browns first pick will not be on o-line.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time I can remember a team having a total stud OL- and have it work out was the Titans when they made their SB run.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397343https://brownsboard.com/post/397343Mon, 07 Apr 2014 00:09:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:46:35 GMT]]>I agree that it's preferable to not draft a RT

so high.

But my point was, we don't have a guy to play at LT.

No backup there. I wouldn't want Swartz at LT, so...

you'd have to draft high to get a guy who could fill in

at LT if he ever had to.

This draft is nuts to figure out, far worse than other years.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397338https://brownsboard.com/post/397338Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:46:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 16:06:33 GMT]]>You don't draft a RT that early in the draft... unless you're the Jaguars. Do you want to be the Jaguars?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397271https://brownsboard.com/post/397271Sun, 06 Apr 2014 16:06:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:53:39 GMT]]>My ideal scenario is to trade down and pick up a shut down corner opposite Haden ....then take QB like Carr if still there at 26 ...then 2nd round go WR and OG (extra pick via trade ) and then depending on what Mack does C and RB in the 3rd ....

Dennard or Gilbert

Carr

Benjamin or Bryant

Yankey or Gabe Jackson

Richburg or Swanson

Mason or Seastrunk

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397264https://brownsboard.com/post/397264Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:53:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:42:44 GMT]]>We need to STOP using 1st round picks on the offensive line. It makes sense to use a top half 1st round pick on a LT IF you need one, which we don't, and it makes sense to get a talented guy who plays any of the other 4 position areas in the back half of the first if said player falls to you, but at the moment we have 2 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick tied up in our offensive line... and it hasn't done shit for our team. Teams that are good use their first rounders on skill players and then develop 2nd - UDFA linemen into starters. Last thing I want to see is to have top top 5 pick tackles on our team for the next 2-3 years. Now if someone good at tackle or guard falls to us at #26, then pick him up. That's just good value if you can get a top 16 talent in the back half of the 1st. But why 1: Spend the #4 pick on a RT who you hope will replace Thomas in 3 years when we need someone who can contribute now and 2: spend any pick on a RT with hopes to moving Schwartz to guard where he has never played. At LEAST draft someone who has played or is projected to play guard instead of taking a RT with hopes that your 3rd year player can switch positions. Call me crazy but I see us getting better play out of our line if we draft a guard and keep having Schwartz work where he has worked before than if we draft a tackle and make Schwartz learn a new position. We would essentially have two rookie starters on the oline.

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@4browns said:

Are we trading Joe Thomas? Otherwise, hell no to spending the 4th pick in the draft on a RT. Only in Cleveland does a large portion of the fan base seem to think you need five first round draft picks on the OL. Seattle had a practice squad pickup, and a 6th rounder starting last year.

Schwartz is a young player that improved as the year went on, especially after he didn't have to play next to O'Neil Cousins. He is at minimum a servicable RT and there is good reason to think he can improve.

Agreed. A productive OL needs to function as a cohesive UNIT with all parts of that unit buying into the system. Individual "star power" doesn't necessarily guarantee teamwork.

Mike

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397258https://brownsboard.com/post/397258Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:09:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 13:28:56 GMT]]>Are we trading Joe Thomas? Otherwise, hell no to spending the 4th pick in the draft on a RT. Only in Cleveland does a large portion of the fan base seem to think you need five first round draft picks on the OL. Seattle had a practice squad pickup, and a 6th rounder starting last year.

Schwartz is a young player that improved as the year went on, especially after he didn't have to play next to O'Neil Cousins. He is at minimum a servicable RT and there is good reason to think he can improve.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397254https://brownsboard.com/post/397254Sun, 06 Apr 2014 13:28:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:55:03 GMT]]>http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/US+Sports/NFL/AFC+North/Cleveland+Browns

Derek Carr with pick 4 ?

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@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

They can get a bookend tackle in the third.

word.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397236https://brownsboard.com/post/397236Sun, 06 Apr 2014 04:37:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sun, 06 Apr 2014 00:25:38 GMT]]>They can get a bookend tackle in the third.

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@ballpeen said:

I wouldn't be against that. That would be like putting money in the bank, providing security for a rainy day.

So would drafting Watkins if Gordon can't keep his piss clean.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397198https://brownsboard.com/post/397198Sun, 06 Apr 2014 00:13:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 22:09:44 GMT]]>Braylon Edwards come to mind? Winslow?

Still couldn't protect the qb a lot of the time?

Still couldn't run the ball?

I'm just saying, if the elite qb raises the level of play

around him, then the offensive line let's him

do his thing.

Or, your oline can get overmatched and beaten up, and

even a Peyton Manning throws 3 ints in a playoff game.

With two picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds, they'll draft

another olineman that can play OG, C. It won't be anybody

who could ever back up at RT and LT.

Yeah, Rich and I argued over the oline a little bit....

maybe he'll visit after the draft....

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@mike-h said:

I wish Ghoolie was here to see this.

Dime a dozen fat asses and no one to score the points!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol exactly what I was thinking]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397165https://brownsboard.com/post/397165Sat, 05 Apr 2014 19:09:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 15:56:36 GMT]]>

@calfoxwc said:

Okay. Don't take it to the bank.

But, the Browns will draft:

#4 - Jake Matthews, or Robinson, if Jake is gone already.

Why? Because the Browns need to upgrade RT, and move Swartz inside.

And, the Browns need somebody to also back up Joe Thomas.

God forbid Joe gets hurt, because the Browns chances of

having their offense work goes down the drain.

Joe has played with no backup. Adding Jake would solidy RT for years,

and give the Browns an option to flip Jake to LT if they

had to.

Any OT in this draft besides one of these two guys, won't be

what they need. They will have bookend tackles, an upgrade at ROG,

and Rob Rang? has Bridgewater falling to the Browns at 26, believe it or not.

That would leave the second round pick to be Kyle Fuller, cb, if he's there,

or some other cb.

I'll be at the draft party with Canton Mike, and it's going to be a crazy draft,

full of surprises.

Though, I'd love to add Beckham, or Landry, wrs, to the Browns roster in

the first round.

Yea, sure take that to the bank and you can get about 0.2% interest. Ergo, I will not be taking it to your bank.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/397153https://brownsboard.com/post/397153Sat, 05 Apr 2014 15:56:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns #4 pick.. take it to the bank on Sat, 05 Apr 2014 15:04:58 GMT]]>Actually, my expert opinion is also based on laughing and arguing

with Canton Mike on the phone.

Farmer is the key - I respect him so highly, that whatever they do,

it will be the best thing to do.

I bet there will be big surprises. The draft party at the stadium

is a lot of fun - it was last year.

This year? I bet on it.

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@logicisforsquares said:

People would riot if they drafted a tackle over a QB or pass rusher at that spot.

People need to get over it then and let the professionals run the football team. If they pass on a QB at 4 it means in their professional opinion it was to much of a reach. If they pass on Watkins it likely means that while he is great he is not actually a top tier need based on already having Gordon.

Like everyone else I love to offer my commentary on who they should draft but at the end of the day we need to realize that 99% of us are fans basing it on what we read online. Beyond that in the 1% there are those basing it on what they see in game film etc. Maybe 10% of that 1% actually know what they are looking at and how hard it is to translate that from college to the NFL.

At the end of the day the last thing I want is an FO who makes their draft decisions based on what is popular with a fan base. I want them to do their job , suck up that pressure and make the best pick for our Brownies. I for one will not be pissed if they decide that pick is an OT. It may not be the sexy pick but most guys that played football at least recognize just how important a solid OL is.

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