@poeticg said:

Well, that's put the kiss of death on it.

RB - Ben Tate / Terrance West / Isaiah Crowell / Edwin Baker

FB - Chris Pressley

WR1 - Nate Burleson

WR2 - Greg Little/ Charles Johnson

WRS - Andrew Hawkins / Travis Benjamin

TE - Jordan Cameron / Jim Dray / MarQueis Gray

LT - Joe Thomas

LG - Joel Bitonio/ Garrett Gilkey

C - Alex Mack/ John Greco

RG -Paul McQuistan/ John Greco

RT - Mitchell Schwartz / Martin Wallace

RDE - Ahtyba Rubin / Armonty Bryant

NT - Phil Taylor / John Hughes / Ishmaa'ily Kitchen

LDE - Desmond Bryant / Billy Winn

ROLB - Paul Kruger / Barkevious Mingo

RILB - Karlos Dansby / Tank Carder

LILB - Christian Kirksey / Craig Robertson

LOLB - Jabaal Sheard / Quentin Groves

RCB - Joe Haden / Isaiah Trufant

LCB - Justin Gilbert / Pierre Desir

NCB - Pierre Desir/ Buster Skrine

FS - Tashaun Gipson / Jamoris Slaughter

SS - Donte Whitner / Josh Aubrey

LS - Christian Yount

K - Billy Cundiff

P - Spencer Lanning

I don't see us adding an instant starter WR through FA.

@gftchris said:

Yeah, Hawkins. Still a post-draft hangover.

Andre Johnson would be a nice one year fit at that #1.

Zombo

--maybe him and johnny were fast friends in Houston?

Charles Johnson

Chandler Jones

Willie Snead

Jonathan Krause

Kenny Shaw

Conner Vernon

Great WRs come from all over the place, and like Farmer has said, sometimes they just need to be given a shot...

Way too early to tell, and pending Gordon's situation.

Ya, that makes more sense. Still a lot of IFs.

I won't surprised if Travis Benjamin comes back 100% and is expected to start. Gilbert can return punts and Benji can become a full time offensive player. The other big IFS are Little (a permanent IF) and Johnson.

I think Burleson can get us 40-50 key grabs and Watkins can get us 70+ if they are both healthy. we just really need a playmaker that can take on the #1 corner of the other team ... Little has failed at that job in the past, Benji has a a very lean frame to be a #1 and Charles Johnson looks good on paper but was a 7th rounder who has absolutely no experience.

Zombo

@texasag1969 said:

Well Joe Thomas on the one side should be fine. Mitchell Schwartz on the other may have problems, but has been better in the second half of the season so may do OK.

How well will the O line stack up against Clowney, Watt & Company Nov 16? Will they be able to give the QB (Hoyer or Manziel) time enough to find receivers?

The guys who play football because they love the game, kickass, etc....

They just had some guys they really wanted, and the receivers they wanted

were taken early in those rounds.

I see it as - if they already had their current draftees on the roster, given the same roster,

of course they would be drafting wr's.

All this wr worry is nonsense. The Browns will resolve the situation. Several of those teams that drafted

wr's can't keep the cap-killing wr's on their roster. And there are trades to be made. Way too much

angst way too early. In Farmer and Pettine and co. I trust.

Just drafting a wr because you need to, gets you guys like Braylon Edwards,

Massoquoi sp? and Robieski..sp? Nah.

@roc585 said:

What makes you think Farmer is set at that position? Did I miss his quote? It's May for Christsake! A lot can happen in the way of player acquisitions between now and September. Chill out dude.

@thenew23 said:

Updated... if Gordon is in the lineup. That starting lineup looks nasty...

GO BROWNS!!

@thenew23 said:

Assuming no Josh Gordon, here is my opening day depth chart... (btw I understand it is WAAAYYYYY to early to even think about doing this, but it's fun)

QB - Johnny Manziel / Brian Hoyer / Connor Shaw

RB - Ben Tate / Terrance West / Isaiah Crowell / Ediwn Baker

FB - Chris Pressley

WR1 - Nate Burleson / Chandler Jones

WR2 - Charles Johnson / Greg Little

WRS - Andrew Hawkins / Travis Benjamin

TE - Jordan Cameron / Jim Dray / MarQueis Gray

LT - Joe Thomas

LG - John Greco / Garrett Gilkey

C - Alex Mack

RG - Joel Bitonio / Paul McQuiston

RT - Mitchell Schwartz / Martin Wallace

RDE - Ahtyba Rubin / Armonty Bryant

NT - Phil Taylor / John Hughes / Ishmaa'ily Kitchen

LDE - Desmond Bryant / Billy Winn

ROLB - Paul Kruger / Barkevious Mingo

RILB - Karlos Dansby / Tank Carder

LILB - Christian Kirksey / Craig Robertson

LOLB - Jabaal Sheard / Quentin Groves

RCB - Joe Haden / Isaiah Trufant

LCB - Justin Gilbert / Pierre Desir

NCB - Buster Skrine / Leon McFadden

FS - Tashaun Gipson / Jamoris Slaughter

SS - Donte Whitner / Josh Aubrey

LS - Christian Young

K - Billy Cundiff

P - Spencer Lanning

Probably won't even be close...

@thenew23 said:

Hawkins is only 5'7" - I think he struggles outside, but he might have to go there to start with, with Gordon out.

I think Skrine is the nickelback, and desir is first backup to Haden/Gilbert. Still not sure why you have Trufant in there?

Agree on Johnson, quietly excited about what he can do. And what about Josh Cooper? He has looked good every time I've seen him play.

@utzie said:

No. Refused to do that. Hawkins is our highest paid WR right now, so I say he plays outside... why not?

@gftchris said:

Pierre Desir - not beating out McFadden or Trufant?

More or less, Desir vs. Skrine for starting Nickel corner. Probably looks confusing, but if I put them in order Skrine would be CB3 and Desir would be CB4

@roc585 said:

but barring any major trades for WR or one of our guys being a diamond in the rough, our WR core is extremely sub-par.

Not that he's our savior, but look up Charles Johnson and the story about Mike McCarthy's reaction to us signing him... At 6'2" 215, he ran the 40 at 4.38 during his pro-day in 2013. Was sideleined last year due to torn ACL, which is always concerning. I hope he gets healthy and has a chance to contribute.

And yes, I know Gordon's suspension is still up in the air...

Also, I'm pretty sure Hawkins is solely a slot guy. I guess you would need to move Burleson to WR1 (gross) and move Hawkins to the WRS.

@gftchris said:

Ya got rid of Skrine and Desir for McFadden and Trufant?

Not with your pecking order at WR either.

But like you said ... way early.

Zombo