<![CDATA[Joe Haden challenge]]>I know Lebron is back but Joe has this to say about it.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11207459/joe-haden-cleveland-browns-challenged-lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-bring-title-city

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@tour2ma said:

Varejao is the Cav's bird-man... he a role player, and in his role he's good... not $9mm/yr good IMO, but good.

Why the Cavs have a serious interest in Love. Miami proved you can win a Championship without a dominant Big man, but it's a lot easier with one.

BTW, in the NFL- yes you win with a great team, but it certainly helps if you have a great QB along for the ride.

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@masterdog said:

The NBA is a different animal.

All it takes is that one Super 'hof' star.

MJ era

Hakeen era

Shaq era

Kobe era

Lebron era

Sprinkle in between shaq, kobe and lebron are Duncan & Pop.

I guess thats my point, if you dont get lucky enough to have that guy in the NBA youre stuck on the outside looking in for long stretches of time.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419756https://brownsboard.com/post/419756Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:08:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:04:23 GMT]]>The NFL on the other hand requires a more complete TEAM game.

The word team in the NFL starts from the TOP down...

Owner,

GM,

Coaches,

Defense,

Offense,

Trainer,

Waterboy,

Cheer leaders <-- Sorry, but who doesn't that?

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XxDaBuckeyexX said:

After looking it up, it was actually a lot closer than I thought. In the NBA, 13/30 teams have never won a championship, 8/30 have never appeared in the Finals. In the NFL, 13/32 teams have never won a Super Bowl, while only 4/32 have never appeares in one. But, the NFL has much more parity than the NBA and its not even close. Much easier to go from a bottom feeder to a contender in the NFL than the NBA..

The NBA is a different animal.

All it takes is that one Super 'hof' star.

MJ era

Hakeen era

Shaq era

Kobe era

Lebron era

Sprinkle in between shaq, kobe and lebron are Duncan & Pop.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419752https://brownsboard.com/post/419752Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:02:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:58:20 GMT]]>Baby steps.

How bout we win 10 games first? 😕

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419750https://brownsboard.com/post/419750Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:58:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:55:15 GMT]]>After looking it up, it was actually a lot closer than I thought. In the NBA, 13/30 teams have never won a championship, 8/30 have never appeared in the Finals. In the NFL, 13/32 teams have never won a Super Bowl, while only 4/32 have never appeares in one. But, the NFL has much more parity than the NBA and its not even close. Much easier to go from a bottom feeder to a contender in the NFL than the NBA..

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XxDaBuckeyexX said:

The poll and your statement are not the same thing. It is much more difficult to win an NBA championship than the Super Bowl. For proof just look at what percentage of teams have won one in each. NBA is dominated by one player or one team for long stretches, so as I said, the Cavs are favorites to win one because were lucky enough to have the best player on the planet.

1. I was referring to the posts made after you proclaimed me to be "wrong".

2. Sorry... but I think everything you are saying about "one player blah blah blah" is merely supporting my original statement... which was... "It's easier to pull together a champion in the NBA."

@letsgojackets said:

Browns need to learn to win playoff games.

Fixed!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419670https://brownsboard.com/post/419670Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:27:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Tue, 15 Jul 2014 16:43:12 GMT]]>I would say the Cavaliers are the best bet. Reason being there are many number one pick players on the team as wel as James who is probably the best to ever play the game. And basketball is a game in which three great players make a hell of a difference. Not so much with football even if Johnny Manziel turns out to be the next Joe Namath. And so far he has done absolutely nothing. Neither has this coaching staff nor anyone on the team.

I'm hoping the Browns go to and win the Superbowl this year!

but...

WSS

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@tml1138 said:

Should an NBA title come to Cleveland first...it will do nothing to satiate my appetite for the Browns to win it all. Absolutely Zero.

It would help.....but I can see getting greedy.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419494https://brownsboard.com/post/419494Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:20:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:45:55 GMT]]>Always liked Andy. Cavs could win 2 before the Browns win 1. Browns need to learn to win playoff games.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419459https://brownsboard.com/post/419459Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:45:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:37:48 GMT]]>Varejao is the Cav's bird-man... he a role player, and in his role he's good... not $9mm/yr good IMO, but good.

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@tour2ma said:

Seems folks agree with me and not you... Shocker! 😉

The poll and your statement are not the same thing. It is much more difficult to win an NBA championship than the Super Bowl. For proof just look at what percentage of teams have won one in each. NBA is dominated by one player or one team for long stretches, so as I said, the Cavs are favorites to win one because were lucky enough to have the best player on the planet.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419433https://brownsboard.com/post/419433Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:31:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:28:27 GMT]]>

@miktoxic said:

i'd much rather have z back than 'side-show bob'(varejo). i don't understand why he is even still on the roster. must be a cleve favorite. from here he looks like shit.

Andy is incredibly underrated, IMO. At least when he is healthy.

He is an absolute rebounding machine and hustles like no other. Opposing teams hate him because he never stops moving and is all over the court defensively and crashes the offensive boards.

I would still take Z, no doubt. There's a reason his number is in the rafters now. But to say Andy is a sideshow is pretty inaccurate.

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@miktoxic said:

i'd much rather have z back than 'side-show bob'(varejo). i don't understand why he is even still on the roster. must be a cleve favorite. from here he looks like shit.

Varajao is much more athletic than Z.....Z was great in his day. But I really want the cavs to get an honest big man in the middle.. A Moses Malone type or a Pat Ewing type dominant center.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419429https://brownsboard.com/post/419429Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:23:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:21:29 GMT]]>Should an NBA title come to Cleveland first...it will do nothing to satiate my appetite for the Browns to win it all. Absolutely Zero.

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@tour2ma said:

Seems folks agree with me and not you... Shocker! 😉

NFL you need a QB... Browns don't have.

NBA you need one of the best players... Cleveland has that. Easy to see who would win first.

Not to mention the difficulty difference alone it is to get into the post season in the NFL/NBA

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XxDaBuckeyexX said:

That is not true. Maybe it is if youre lucky enough to have the best player.

Seems folks agree with me and not you... Shocker! 😉

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419383https://brownsboard.com/post/419383Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:38:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:10:44 GMT]]>i'd much rather have z back than 'side-show bob'(varejo). i don't understand why he is even still on the roster. must be a cleve favorite. from here he looks like shit.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419380https://brownsboard.com/post/419380Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:10:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:21:55 GMT]]>There isn't a player in the NFL that can have the impact Lebron can have on the NBA. Having him on your roster immediately makes your roster good enough to make the finals. I mean seriously, he went with a supporting cast of Z, Gooden, Sasha, Booby, E.Snow, Hughes, Andy, and Donyell Marshall in 2007... Other than Z, I would rather have Kyrie, T.Thompson, Waiters, Andy, and Wiggins over just about anybody on that roster...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419344https://brownsboard.com/post/419344Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:21:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:15:55 GMT]]>What the fuck is this "Manziel and I" bullshit. I didn't see where they put Manziel #1 on the DC

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419339https://brownsboard.com/post/419339Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:15:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:03:09 GMT]]>^right.

hopefully they keep wiggins and wait on love...so that's a year right there.

please dan gilbert, don't start wheeling and dealing to get some huge FA (for a year) when you're not that close to begin with.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419335https://brownsboard.com/post/419335Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:03:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:43:41 GMT]]>I like Joe's attitude, but it is a whole lot easier to put together a championship NBA team in 1 season, than it is to put together a championship NFL team in 1 season. Having said that I don't see an NBA title next season regardless.

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@tour2ma said:

It's easier to pull together a champion in the NBA.

That is not true. Maybe it is if youre lucky enough to have the best player.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/419325https://brownsboard.com/post/419325Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:34:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Joe Haden challenge on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 14:24:05 GMT]]>Browns won't win one until they get a QB.

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