I say full year, because his contract will be on hold.

How is it fair to the Browns that you can effectively shorten your contract by screwing off & getting partial suspensions?

I don't see any way that it is.

From what I've seen evidence wise, this should be a no suspension deal, but the NFL is in a bit of a damage control mode right now so I don't know that this is going to happen.

@westside-steve said:

That is because the Warren Commission had a predetermined conclusion. Hopefully this does not.

@stillmotion said:

The NFL needs to quit taking so long on this shit though. It's unreal. Didn't take this long for the Rice suspension.

Shit it didn't take this long for the Warren Commission!

WSS

@thaak said:

Lets put this in perspective.

You grow up with childhood friends, who remain your friends through your young 20's. You guys are thick as pea soup, peas in a pod, whatever metaphor you want to use.

And you think its just that easy to drop a lifelong BFF? If so, I don't ever want to be in a position where you are my friend. I'd be afraid that a speeding ticket would get me tossed outta your circle.

The second I quit smoking weed I dropped ALL my old friends and we were "tight". I HAD to. I still talk to them occasionally and we get together once or twice a year but I realized one of the only things we had in common was that we all liked to get high. They still do, I don't, so I have new friends now...

@mld-woody said:

"I don't like people fuckin' wif my phone!"

@dste-ace said:

Exactly. This 'loyalty to old hood friends' is bullshit. They are trying to drag him down. Past time to cut the cord.

Hagan was from South Central L.A. For you younger members, watch "Boyz N the Hood" for a perspective of

where he came from. While in his senior season he went back to the hood one weekend to visit. His high school

coach basically said "It was good to see him, glad he's doing well, now I want him to get the hell out of here

before something horrible happens."

His coach's attitude has been replaced with 'Keeping it Real'. Keeping it Real is code for "we've been friends for

a long time, now you're making a lot of money, it's your responsibility to take care of me and give me money and let

me use your car, etc., 'cause I sure as hell don't feel like getting a job, trying to better myself, 'cause you have to

Keep it Real and let me sponge off of you indefinitely until the money runs out."

Ask Allen Iverson's broke ass how Keeping it Real has worked out for him.

Remaining close to childhood friends is one thing---having them glomm onto you and expect you to take care

of their sorry asses and put your career in jeopardy in order to Keep it Real is quite another.

It may sound harsh, but Josh has too much at stake to continue with this bullshit. Time for Josh to be a man and

pick the leech's off before they drag him under for good.

Aug 5 2014, 10:59 PMKyle Smith

As Josh Gordon awaits the results of his appeal of a possible year-long suspension resulting from a failed drug test for marijuana, the Cleveland Browns are preparing for at least a half-season without their star wide receiver.

According to a report by Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot, league sources are saying the Browns are bracing for Gordon to receive at least an eight game suspension.

Should Gordon lose the appeal, he'll face a minimum one-year suspension, but there's still a possibility the two sides could hammer out a deal that would see the Pro Bowler suit up in 2014.

"As frustrating as it is for Josh, I think he's handled it well,'' head coach Mike Pettine told Cleveland.com. "He's been practicing hard, giving good effort, finishing plays. Assuming if we don't hear anything, then he'll be out there

@canton-dawg said:

Very interesting legal analysis by Cedric Hopkins.

Very interesting indeed.

I'm sure the specter of a lawsuit made Roger's day...

i mean i pictured him in a puff puff pass circle with katt williams and snoop dogg.

@thaak said:

All of them. Gordon has enough cash to take all his buddies to Florida.

All of them. Gordon has enough cash to take all his buddies to Florida.

And in a regular caring world, you'd be correct.

But that isn't the world we live in, is it? You've got a caring guy who loves his buddies, and his buddies have stars in their eyes. They are officially an entourage.

Additionally, they are of the younger generation, and so have the "screw the man" entitlement mentality. "Screw the man, they can't tell us what to smoke. Don't worry my friend J.G., you won't detect cause we are smokin'!"

Josh loves them. They love him. But he doesn't know how to stand up to them. He's a young 20'something who's never had to stand up to anything in his life. He doesn't know how. And he doesn't want to drop all his buddies.

Should he? Yes.

Will he? Who knows.

But if you stop looking at it as black and white, and try to be understanding, just a little, you might see why he hasn't or won't.

Doesn't mean you have to like it. And doesn't mean you shouldn't expect him to reap the consequences of his actions. But vilifying him for making a perfectly reasonable choice for a caring human being... not so much.

Well said....

As I have wrote previously on this topic, he may be a complete bonehead, but he is OUR bonehead. And he's a human being, not an object for us to project our DISTANT fan based expecations upon, particularly with how little we actually know of Josh Gordon the MAN.

@gftchris said:

All of them. Gordon has enough cash to take all his buddies to Florida.

All of them. Gordon has enough cash to take all his buddies to Florida.

And in a regular caring world, you'd be correct.

But that isn't the world we live in, is it? You've got a caring guy who loves his buddies, and his buddies have stars in their eyes. They are officially an entourage.

Additionally, they are of the younger generation, and so have the "screw the man" entitlement mentality. "Screw the man, they can't tell us what to smoke. Don't worry my friend J.G., you won't detect cause we are smokin'!"

Josh loves them. They love him. But he doesn't know how to stand up to them. He's a young 20'something who's never had to stand up to anything in his life. He doesn't know how. And he doesn't want to drop all his buddies.

Should he? Yes.

Will he? Who knows.

But if you stop looking at it as black and white, and try to be understanding, just a little, you might see why he hasn't or won't.

Doesn't mean you have to like it. And doesn't mean you shouldn't expect him to reap the consequences of his actions. But vilifying him for making a perfectly reasonable choice for a caring human being... not so much.

@thaak said:

Two things. You probably have 2-3 guys like that who you can't separate from, at most. If they're that close, if they care that deeply about you, when you say "guys, I need to stay clean" then they respect you, they help you even if they're smoking anything on their own. Second, he was spending his summer in Florida, IIRC, and grew up in Houston, so how many of his bestest buddies for life were out there?

@gftchris said:

Lets put this in perspective.

You grow up with childhood friends, who remain your friends through your young 20's. You guys are thick as pea soup, peas in a pod, whatever metaphor you want to use.

And you think its just that easy to drop a lifelong BFF? If so, I don't ever want to be in a position where you are my friend. I'd be afraid that a speeding ticket would get me tossed outta your circle.

@mld-woody said:

This. The law in Ohio for employer drug testing says that both samples have to test positive for a failure to be reported.

WADA tests this way with a 150 ng/ml

Nevada and California Sanctioning Bodies test this way with 50 ng/ml

The NFL tests at 15 ng/ml of which Gordon's average was less than 15.

The bottles are arbitrarily labeled, and if the B had been labeled A, then he would have tested negative.

And the B bottle, under NFL guidelines, doesn't have to confirm a positive result, it just has to confirm that the same substance is in the sample.

So whether he failed by the rules of the NFL or not, the argument is that the rules of the NFL are cracked.

@utzie said:

Especially if Hoyer's throwing the passes.

@letsgojackets said:

If Gordon wins the appeal and helps lead the Browns to the playoffs, it should be made into a movie.

@canton-dawg said:

This is quickly turning into a Hollywood movie.