<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Brian Hoyer]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><span><span>Brain Hoyer was undrafted and cut by 3 different teams. I don't know how many great NFL QBs have taken that path before they turned on the greatness, but I know it's not many. </span></span></p>

<p><span><span>You can find me a similar story, or another long shot but the doesn't change anything. It's called data. Data can show you probabilities and can even rule some things out of being considered a reasonable expectation. Saying "Well this guy was drafted here and he became this" is relying on individual antidotal evidence and saying it nullifies the populous data. It does not. It's an outlier. Outliers can not be reasonably expected.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>For instance a Running Back is going to run a better 40 time than a Lineman. Data proves this. Now there has been a lineman that has run a better 40 time than a running back before, but you can not have a reasonable expectation of that outcome. It's highly unlikely.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>On a grander scale look at airplane travel. Data shows the safest form of commercial travel is by airplane. Planes do crash but they're so rare that you can not reasonably expect any plane you're on to crash. You could fly everyday multiple times and never die in a plane crash. Though they do happen, that doesn't change the rule the data has set.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>If you jump out of a plane without a parachute, you will die. Data supports this. Now you can google and find people who have LIVED falling from planes. That doesn't change the rule. If you jump out of a airplane without a parachute, you will die. No reasonable expectation otherwise.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>Brian Hoyer is a undrafted QB that has been cut 3 times. There's a reason for that. He's not going to be a great QB. You can say others have, but you have no reasonable expectation that he will. The data on that situation is overwhelming. Now of course you will all say something about Manziel I'm sure and you're right, first round draft picks don't always pan out. However the data will show there is a reasonable expectation that a first round draft pick will work out.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>If you had to bet your life on Brian Hoyer making the Hall of Fame would you? </span></span></p>
<p><span><span>Now once again because you always have to respond with Manziel, I'll tell you right now I wouldn't bet my life on Manziel making the Hall of Fame.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>HOWEVER if I had to take either Hoyer or Manziel and for my life I had to bet which one would make the Hall of Fame, I'd bet Manziel EVERYTIME all the time and so would you. Why? Because of the data. One was evaluated and undrafted and then evaluated by 3 other teams and cut from their team. The other won an award as the best college player, then was evaluated by NFL teams and chosen in the first round. The odds are much higher there.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>If you think Hoyer is going to be a great QB, then you're fighting data. You're standing at the open door of a plane telling me you could survive jumping without a parachute. I'm telling you that you can't, but you're saying that you saw on the news that someone else did it. </span></span></p>

<p><span><span>The result is inevitable. History will not be kind to choosing against the data.</span></span></p>

<p><span><span>That's the last you'll see me speak about Brian Hoyer. Have at it.</span></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/29930/brian-hoyer</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 10:27:03 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/29930.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2014 00:09:31 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:57:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stock, buddy, I'm going to give you one thread, you can start it yourself, do what ever, but just keep it the one thread. You're too repetitive and nobody likes you. If you start trolling again, your'e gone for the season.</strong></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/456358</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/456358</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:57:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:49:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>At least he spelled champagne right.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/456355</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/456355</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bbedward]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:49:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:46:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>History will be very very kind to me. Has already been very kind to this thread.<br /><br />I like how someone went through and locked all my other threads right before I come back from suspension. Trust me many of you MANY of you don't want to reread through those now. Things have played out almost exactly as I said they would. <br /><br />I like this entire thread best. I think even my speech to the team that you guys begged for would be perfect right now. <a href="/topic/30747">http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30747#</a><br /><br />Tour...you couldn't look dumber at this point. Eat the crow like a man, or bitch and moan and say its not your fault like Hoyer does. Up to you. I have a feeling I already know which way you'll go.<br /><br /><br />Miller High Life in a Champagne League. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/456354</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/456354</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StocktonShorts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:46:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:12:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Cut yet?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/427962</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/427962</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TopDawg31]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:12:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:34:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>bump</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/427947</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/427947</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StocktonShorts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:34:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:17:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>start rex grossman, trade hoyer....let manziel develop, keep shaw....</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426474</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426474</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[VaJayJay]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:17:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:39:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Start Hoyer, pray the Bills get the #1 overall pick (hasn't happened since 1985) then get a real QB.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426369</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426369</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Demoted]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:39:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:29:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jcam222" aria-label="Profile: jcam222">@<bdi>jcam222</bdi></a> <a href="/post/426332">said</a>:</p><div><p>For what it's worth I thought Everlastingxxx and Texag made decent posts. Doesn't mean I agree with them but their posts were often good , much more so than a lot of the Stooler trolls that pop in.</p></div></blockquote>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>They were only outed a few hours until I realized people enjoyed kicking them around. They are free to come back anytime.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426360</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426360</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:29:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:58:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/miktoxic" aria-label="Profile: miktoxic">@<bdi>miktoxic</bdi></a> <a href="/post/425913">said</a>:</p><div>
<p><strong>they'll all disappear if he can't beat out hoyer during the regular season barring injury.</strong></p>

<p><strong>if he sucks as bad as they think hoyer is, do you think they'll stick with him for another year?</strong></p>
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<p>Didn't follow Tim Tebow around the message boards mik? It was never his fault. The Tebowites never admitted he just wasnt good enough to play at this level. IF the Muskrat can't hack it and show development, they will say the same about him until their dying breaths. College Fan Bois for some reason or another can't grasp the fact that sometimes great college play doesn't translate in the pros, even when 20 different talking heads will all say it before he gets drafted. It will be futile to explain this to anyone from Texas at this point.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426342</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426342</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[QCBrowner]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:58:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:50:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/stocktonshorts" aria-label="Profile: stocktonshorts">@<bdi>stocktonshorts</bdi></a> <a href="/post/426227">said</a>:</p><p>Nobody talking about the next Len Dawson/Kurt Warner/6th Round QB from 00 anymore?</p></blockquote>
<p>
Haven't broken down the tape yet... Have you? </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426338</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426338</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:50:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:42:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>For what it's worth I thought Everlastingxxx and Texag made decent posts. Doesn't mean I agree with them but their posts were often good , much more so than a lot of the Stooler trolls that pop in. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426332</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426332</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jcam222]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:42:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:50:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I don't understand the complication here...in every season opportunity comes...Start Hoyer. There will be a point in the season where JFF will have an opportunity to seize the job - like Kap in SF, Warner in St L , and Brady in NE.... or the shit the bed like dozens of guys no one remembers. Call it now Pettine so your team can focus on getting ready for Pittspuke. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426274</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426274</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[CLEinCHI]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:50:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:50:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hoyer is our best chance.</p>
<p>Manzere will flatten out if Pettine throws his tiny ass to the Steelers week 1..</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426273</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426273</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[domcucch1994]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:50:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:46:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/stocktonshorts" aria-label="Profile: stocktonshorts">@<bdi>stocktonshorts</bdi></a> <a href="/post/426227">said</a>:</p><div><p>Nobody talking about the next Len Dawson/Kurt Warner/6th Round QB from 00 anymore?</p></div></blockquote>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>It's preseason, Bud. Bring on the Hoyer hate after the Steeler game if you must.</strong></span></p>

<p><span style="color:#8b4513"><strong>Zombo</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426228</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426228</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:46:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:38:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Nobody talking about the next Len Dawson/Kurt Warner/6th Round QB from 00 anymore?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426227</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426227</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StocktonShorts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:38:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:28:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/stocktonshorts" aria-label="Profile: stocktonshorts">@<bdi>stocktonshorts</bdi></a> <a href="/post/426024">said</a>:</p>
<p>Everyone might want to reread the original post again. </p>
<p>Should start to be a bit more clear.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Ah, you there! Way to talk about Brian Hoyer without actually talking about Brian Hoyer. Good for you.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426035</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426035</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ibleedbrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:28:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:23:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!!! </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426027</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426027</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[D Bone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:23:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:19:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/stocktonshorts" aria-label="Profile: stocktonshorts">@<bdi>stocktonshorts</bdi></a> <a href="/post/426024">said</a>:</p>
<p>Everyone might want to reread the original post again. </p>
<p>
Should start to be a bit more clear.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>
Why... it's all you ever post... time after time after time after...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426026</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426026</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:19:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:18:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Everyone might want to reread the original post again. </p>
<p>Should start to be a bit more clear.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426024</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426024</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StocktonShorts]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:18:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:12:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Well, we all know who the best QB is now............. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/426009</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/426009</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[D Bone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:12:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:34:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>they'll all disappear if he can't beat out hoyer during the regular season barring injury.</strong></p>

<p><strong>if he sucks as bad as they think hoyer is, do you think they'll stick with him for another year?</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/425913</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/425913</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:34:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:47:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Bring them back.  New blood always stirs things up a bit on the big board.    Their posts are usually coherent and, at times, provoking.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/425901</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/425901</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[slowburn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:47:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:34:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>If he plays the way some of these guys think he will, we'll all be Johnny fans.</p>

<p>Hell, after his 3rd Superbowl win, l'll name my first born after him. She's 13, and a girl, so she won't like that much, but we all have to make sacrifices to pay homage to Johnny.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/425899</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/425899</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ibleedbrown]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:34:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Brian Hoyer on Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:55:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>either way regular browns fans are going to have to deal with these guys until they realize manziel is only human.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/425865</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/425865</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:55:31 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>