@douche-nozzle said:

F%*k you!

We have lift off...

@stocktonshorts said:

I love when people start playing the semantics game.

@stocktonshorts said:

Ohhh please show me where I said anything near that.

Nice contrast...

@stocktonshorts said:

Once again point to me where I said Manziel is good.

Saying (and repeating ad nauseam) that "JM will be the starter when he is ready" did not mean you thought he'd be good?

@strawman said:

I actually like DA, but he's getting older and this is a young mans game. He did what he was brought in to do, helping to mentor Cam, and he done a admirable job.

Never thought I'd see "mentor" and "DA" in the same forum let alone the same post...

@lonnie-utah said:

Every Connor Shaw Snap From Last Night.

Except for one time CS threw the ball accuratley where only his guy had a shot at it. Exception was the wild high and behind post to Krause... who bailed him out with a very, very nice catch (probably why he stuck and Armstrong went). Best throw was the one across his body while rolling left. Snead made a nice diving catch just inbounds.

@mudfly said:

Did a little research today on Heisman winning QB's...

Careful.. you're treading on Gipper's turf...

@alpine1963 said:

Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback...

Only sport really since it's the only one with a position named QB...

@billy1954 said:

Shaw never got the real respect he should have got in college and the Browns have to play Johnny.

@cleinchi said:

so much for Shaw slipping through to the practice squad... a developmental qb actually showing some potential for a change...

... and there's a reason he went undrafted. He's a prospect, a developmental, long-shot prospect... nothing more. But every once in a while one makes it.

@the-gipper said:

Your idea:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQplMip3Stfu0Wa96nho2eV9JBIEXJs74_Aixm-UldlcdtztfANfA

And somewhere a couple steps out to their backyard pool and wonders what happened to their matching hammocks...

@mudfly said:

Yeah I was excited for a minute thinking it was tonight. Then disappointed.

@mudfly said:

OMG with vocabulary like that your becoming......................................one of us! Welcome to the manzealots. LOL.

@cvcanedy said:

wow.....hahaha.....and I thought it was Thursday.....dagnabbit, gotta wait another day now.....

@mudfly said:

It will be interested to see if Grossman even plays tonight......we haven't seen him throw a single pass in a game yet....so, it would make sense to test drive him at least once, right???.....Id say if he doesn't play tonight, then he's a goner for sure......

Tomorrow.

@hx214 said:

The disadvantage of keeping Grossman is you have to pay him a full year of his base salary if he makes the 53 man roster.

@douche-nozzle said:

Maybe, maybe not. I am not sure his college experience....and his rookie training camp experience is any different than say, Cam Newton's, Colin Kaepernick's, RGIIIs.

Mostly your statement is just wishful thinking.

No team is going to sign him. So Grossman will still be there if we need him.

If so what is the advantage to keeping Grossman if Hoyer is the starter? Helping Johnny learn an offense that he isn't even running if he isn't starting? Does Grossman really need to help a vet like Hoyer learn the offense? Is Grossman servicable if he has to be used?

I doubt Shaw would make it through waviers and end up on the practice squad another team would pick him up for a 3rd string guy to learn their system, so far he has shown some of the best upside out of the QB's.

On the other hand, do you want two rookie QB's on the roster?

Just wondering if the upside to having a guy like Grossman around outweights keeping a young player that could have big upside.

@douche-nozzle said:

A bunch of people think Ghoolie is a fool- but he's been the first here to publicly proclaim Manziel as a bust- he can be an obnoxious SOB, but funny thing is- he's been right more often than not.

@westside-steve said:

While playing with guys who will be working for UPS in a couple of weeks.............. Point is, if you can play, then you can play. The Finger was also playing against (and with) some of those same guys, and he sure stood out - oh wait, he didn't.

WSS

I am from South Carolina, and a Shaw fan, yeah yeah. But he did outperform Manziel last game, against much of the same defense that Manziel could do nothing against.

I just hope he gets some play time vs STL.

@lonnie-utah said:

Zero chance Shaw starts. He should see some action in the 4th quarter.

@stocktonshorts said:

I love when people start playing the semantics game.

@hoorta said:

Thanks again- as another poster said- (for) misinterpreting and putting words in the other posters mouths.

BTW, this thread is supposed to be about Shaw, not JFF.

(with apologies to Mudfly, for whom this is not intended...)

@taco918 said:

No, this guy was a real Samurai....and beyond.

@taco918 said:

Tom Cruise?

Ok, l literally laughed out loud at this. Well done.

@kvoethe said:

I dont care who they pick to start im just sick of the DYSFUNCTION!!!!!

That's kind of our thing my man.