@jim_brown said:

Um, because thats the only way to see if he can turn it around??? (are you thick?)

@jim_brown said:

Rex has already proven he sucks.....now Hoyer gets his chance to prove the same....

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Remember the sack by Sam?

What is all this talk about his sack???

WSS

@jim_brown said:

if cleveland were smart, they have grossman ready to go.....he's got way more experience than hoyer...and he's a better qb than hoyer.....neither manziel or shaw are ready yet.....hoyer isn't the future of cleveland qb's anymore than grossman....unless he completely turns it around (from his shitty performance so far), why play him....he ain't the future....rex might actually wins some games....if hoyer keeps on being the preseason hoyer, there aren't any wins coming.....

You dont get 4 quarters of preseason action in a new system, recovering from knee reconstruction, to work the kinks out any more?

Rough crowd.

Z

--We knew Manziel was going to be a rookie, and we knew Hoyer was going to need time to recover and adjust, like any athlete, right?

@miktoxic said:

if cleveland were smart, they have grossman ready to go.....he's got way more experience than hoyer...and he's a better qb than hoyer.....neither manziel or shaw are ready yet.....hoyer isn't the future of cleveland qb's anymore than grossman....unless he completely turns it around (from his shitty performance so far), why play him....he ain't the future....rex might actually wins some games....if hoyer keeps on being the preseason hoyer, there aren't any wins coming.....

i know that doesn't happen often in cleveland, but that's what it's all about.....

if hoyer plays well, he will stay on the field...if hoyer continues to play like he has thus far, i.e. piss poor, he will be the reason why they may decide to go to a two qb system....it's really all up to hoyer.....

i think hoyer and the offense will play better against the bears...the pressure is to step it up....and everyone will trying to prove they are up to the task.....

the real question is what will the offense do against pittsburg......when it matters....

one problem is the O line...it pretty much sucks much of the time.....

@tour2ma said:

Remember the sack by Sam?

@everlastingxxx said:

I think its ridiculous to fire a coach after one season.

Agree... crawl before you walk... walk before you run...

Pettine's plan is clear... run the ball, play tough D and play a QB that will manage the game.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

JFF will start after the bi-week.

Gets to start after going "bi" for one week? Does that include pitching and catching?

@gips said:

smile much?

@dick-mellon said:

They dont have time to get the first team ready let alone adding johnny packages...

After the stoolers lay hoyer out for the year compliments of mitchell schwartz we will get to watch an unprepared johnny rook run for his life and trying to avoid the same fate....

Or the non stop speculation of the 24 7 sports news cycle either for that matter?

WSS

@gips said:

I think pettine is a goner, one and done unless he magically gets it by week 8 and starts turning things around..

Thusfar my early impression of coach pettine is far worse than RAC, Mangini or Shurmur and that is a mouthful..

The QB derby has to be viewed as a boneheaded decision by most fans regardless of if you are a manzielot or a hoyer homo, by not making an ironclad decision to go with one guy and stick to it rather it be his dynamic but raw rookie or brian hoyer, Pettine has created a mess for himself and everyone else..

If the trajectory of this coach does not change only a fool would want this guy for a coach for more than a year..

Wow.

Z

Thusfar my early impression of coach pettine is far worse than RAC, Mangini or Shurmur and that is a mouthful..

The QB derby has to be viewed as a boneheaded decision by most fans regardless of if you are a manzielot or a hoyer homo, by not making an ironclad decision to go with one guy and stick to it rather it be his dynamic but raw rookie or brian hoyer, Pettine has created a mess for himself and everyone else..

If the trajectory of this coach does not change only a fool would want this guy for a coach for more than a year..

@miktoxic said:

lol!

VesnaKociper said:

@tour2ma said:

both when someone makes such an assinine comment.

Like will Hoyer and Manziel be on the field at the same time? Who doesn't wanna see that double lateral flea flicker for a home run ball?

I don't see the Browns going all Wild cat with Manziel. To me the Wild cat is "I'm gonna run it, but l just might throw it." And l would think with Manziel they'd do the opposite of that.

Old Herm "You-play-to-win-the-game" Edwards actually got one right... as close as I can remember he said, "Worry about establishing one Quarterback before you consider a rotation."

@stocktonshorts said:

I am against any special "packages" and what not. Make a decision and stick to it until its obvious that its time for a change. Don't keep dipping your toes in the water.

Everything would be in better shape right now if #6 was announced as the starter at the beginning of camp, with no competition. If Manziel then blew the doors off of camp then internally you could consider it competition. Now that #6 is named the starter, drop all talks of Manziel playing until you're ready to start him.

The decisions that have been ultimately made, feel correct, however how things have transpired feels botched.

I was actually moved to give you a "point"... enjoy...

@miktoxic said:

how much?

I thought you only bet "how many"?