@sadbrownsfan said:

Most of this was(if at all) after the first Gulf War, when we where preventing exports/imports and enforcing the no fly zones.

Then why are we not attacking Saudi Arabia, most terrorist(including 15 out of 19 of the 9/11 terrorist and many key former al-qaeda figures) are from or recruited in Saudi Arabia, and a lot of financing comes out of this area.

Because even though the terrorists were of Saudi Arabian nationality they were not supported by the Royals. In fact they were rebelling against the Royals and their connection with the west. When I said strange bedfellows I meant it. We need the Saudis, they need us.

Saddam expected us to turn a blind eye on his invasion of Kuwait. When we did not he felt betrayed. Possibly rightly so.

But no matter Saddam Hussein is, or was, the power structure in Iraq. Osama bin Laden was not the power structure in Saudi Arabia.

WSS

@calfoxwc said:

Most of this was(if at all) after the first Gulf War, when we where preventing exports/imports and enforcing the no fly zones.

Then why are we not attacking Saudi Arabia, most terrorist(including 15 out of 19 of the 9/11 terrorist and many key former al-qaeda figures) are from or recruited in Saudi Arabia, and a lot of financing comes out of this area.

arms trafficing to rebel/terrorist/sunni extremist groups/etc orgs....

he -was- isis before there was isis.

They would replace Saudi Arabia as the United States number one strange bedfellow.

Iran would be shit out of luck.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Iraq would have increased in size small, but greatly in wealth(with better shipping lanes) and more oil. They would have also erased the last of their debt from Iraq-Iranian war. The US would have never proven to world the advances in military air power that we had achieved(and would use to deter/bomb such as sebia later), US and our allies in the regions(Saudia Ariba) would have lost face and standing among other nations in that region. Other nations/dictators could have taken advantage of the situation..... Oil prices would have probably increased at the same rate it increased with the gulf war.

@downsouthkc said:

We may have even been better off with Saddam.

I am curious as to what would have happened had the United States allowed him to go into Kuwait.

That's what caused the problems in the first place.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

We may have even been better off with Saddam.

@big-red-one said:

Not 100 why you quoted me. These two posts don't seem related too much. That's alright, though. If people think an attack on the homeland isn't going to happen they are naive. We are blessed it hasn't happen yet on a big scale. You're right attacks in Syria/Iraq may be too late but there is little doubt in my mind that if we wanted to we could annihilate the extreme build up these douchebags have made.

I do think that the perception of weakness and hands off approach has opened a void that someone is going to fill in the great power struggle. I think that is what we are seeing in the Middle East, Ukraine, China.

Ain't nobody said to not imagine terrorists here. I guarantee they are here. It would be preposterous to think otherwise.

I just hope we decide to unleash holy hell on them all.

or come here and kill us.

we were probably (possibly?) better off with Kadafi Mubarak and Assad.

we tend to forget that the rebels are not Jeffersonian Democrats.

WSS

@browns149 said:

of course

you are tricked by anything

lojwe bhwvhjc...............woody translation................It's Bush's fault

Oh god please don't

@downsouthkc said:

Americas security has been compromised due to the fact that ISIS has members with western passports.

any proactive attacks to slow down ISIS in Syria and then back into Iraq by air strikes are temporary and may be too late?

Obama is completely comfortable STILL by leading (from behind) the so called and unnamed "coalition" as far as support goes...

After all, the terrorists can very well be right here in the US - imagine that ? we have to.

@mld-woody said:

of course

you are tricked by anything

lojwe bhwvhjc...............woody translation................It's Bush's fault

@fairhooker11 said:

OK

KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

should have done it from the start

Being "Politically correct" and trying to win a war........................WILL NEVER HAPPEN

EVER!!!!!!!!!!

@browns149 said:

if you wont take the past reports of the shell game played in Iraq and Syria when it came to WMD....

then maybe you'll take it from ISIS?

ISIS In Iraq Find Saddam Hussein’s WMD Stockpiles Of Chemical Weapons… George W Bush Was Right?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1309825/isis-in-iraq-find-saddam-husseins-wmd-stockpiles-of-chemical-weapons-george-w-bush-was-right/

And they didn't?

They all lie cal.

Regardless of what letter is in front of their name

Remember this good ole ditty

Obuma will be crossing all those red lines he drew in the sand with his back to Assad!

@calfoxwc said:

seriously? Mr. Psycho radical marxist dumbass in our WH wants to be helping all radicals,

even Muslim radicals, but now he is going to be an ally of Assad because some of the rebels

have taken off and become a Muslim "Borg" ?

What a clusterfook Obamao is -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/west-poised-to-join-forces-with-president-assad-in-face-of-islamic-state-9686666.html

Backing assad in the first place would have been the smart thing to do. Now the genies out of the bottle. Good luck getting it back in