@hoorta said:

Brian Bosworth looked like a stud- until Bo Jackson ran him over like a freight train.

True... but The Boz's Dish Network commercial with Leinart and Shuler is pretty funny.

@vagitron said:

They "caught the Steelers off guard"? What a dumb comment. The Browns were down 27-3 at the half. What did they think the Browns were going to do to catch up.....run out the 25 second clock on every play? If the Steelers coaches and players were caught off guard, then they are completely incompetent. Plus, they would never admit they were caught off guard.

What they were was outplayed, pure and simple. They weren't off guard. They knew what was coming, they just could not stop it.

Usually the Browns sleepwalk through their first game of the season. This time they only slept for the first half.

The fact is, the Steeler defense just isn't very good at this point. And the Browns just dug themselves too big of a hole.

@unsympathetic said:

Texans stadium is one of the worst turf locations in the NFL. Welker and a former Texans punter both had serious injuries caused 100% because of how cheap the turf is. Clowney's injury probably wouldn't have happened anywhere else.

That checkerboard assembly, natural turf is weird. Best I can figure is that they are trying to uphold the tradition of the old Astrodome... the league's previous worst turf.

@miktoxic said:

Billick was the coach who refused to play on the turf. He could put his whole fists into holes in the field. Grew up an Eagles fan.

You guys need to calm down a lil bit. The transition is incredibly tough a this position. Give him time to learn. I mean Patrick Peterson was awfull when he started his career. And there is so many other corners who struggled early on.

What is wrong with you ? How many DB's look like Earl Thomas or Darrell Reivis in their first game ? NONE

@walterwhite said:

Um it takes YEARS not one or two damn games to evaluate a draft, or a player. Har, har- Brian Bosworth looked like a stud- until Bo Jackson ran him over like a freight train.

@cbus-brownie said:

Fair, BUT, we got lucky and got another 1st rounder for T Rich. We won't be getting shit for Gilbert, at least not a #1. I'm looking at it from the standpoint, what do you have to show from 1st rd 2014.

Answer is- we don't know that yet, and won't for a couple of years.

@walterwhite said:

It's totally just rookie growing pains to lay completely flat on the ground.

Nope, impossible for any other cornerback ever- to slip on that shitty playing surface at Ketchup Field.

@walterwhite said:

I know we passed on a lot of rookies who are help contribute while we drafted a fucking bum.

Watkins, Shazier, Cooks, Mathews, Mack, Lewan, Varrett, Roby, Benjamin > Gilbert.

It's one fucking game Walter. You ever think about the advanced concept Offensive\defensive coordinators now have analyzed tape on these guys to see what they don't do well, and will attack those weaknesses unmercifully?

@walterwhite said:

This is just fucking embarrassing, rookie or not.

Please rant some more because the first 23 rants have not convinced me...

@vagitron said:

The browns would not have been able to successfully run that no huddle offense for an entire game. Why anyone thinks that's sustainable is beyond me. The browns caught the steelers off guard and capitalized. Poor field position for the steelers and a couple stalled drives. In the end the better team won.

Off guard by being a vastly improved team? I can see that.

But unless in western PA y'all consider "four" to be a "couple", you have a counting deficiency. And it's "five" if you count the fake punt as two stalled drives...

See you 12 October...

do you little cry babies actually read some of the stuff you post?

some fans should just trade in their jerseys for pink tutus and some pom poms and watch soccer.

@vagitron said:

The Browns were down 24 with 2 quarters to play, and yet they somehow "caught the stoolers off guard and capitalized" by going to the no huddle?? LOL Great coaching.

@choco said:

and you think its reasonable to view from that standpoint after one game?

Lmao....oh....of course you do.

How fucking stupid is this argument....talking definitively about rookies after one game of ball. Good fucking god man....

But don't let me save you from your own stupidity. Please continue about how you know the future.

No, I'm talking worst case scenario out loud. I started the bread because I'm concerned. I'm holding out hope he progresses, but it has been really ugly so far.

Given our track record, you blame me for thinking half glass full?

@miktoxic said:

yesterday was a tale of 2 halves. if they had the correct game plan called going into the game as they did going into the 2nd half we wouldn't be having these conversations.

and hey, the saints didn't look all the impressive yesterday either.

The browns would not have been able to successfully run that no huddle offense for an entire game. Why anyone thinks that's sustainable is beyond me. The browns caught the steelers off guard and capitalized. Poor field position for the steelers and a couple stalled drives. In the end the better team won.

@walterwhite said:

No, you really don't... because it's been ONE FUCKING GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck what happened in the preseason, that don't mean shit...

Shazier - the next Ray Lewis...? LOL... after one game where he really didn't do shit except one TFL where he went unblocked...?? You gotta be kidding...

I'll concede that SOME rookies step right in and contribute, IF you concede that some rookies start slow and go on to have GREAT NFL careers...

Get over yourself

@choco said:

I know we passed on a lot of rookies who are help contribute while we drafted a fucking bum.

You knew all that shit about johnny too....right? How awesome he was going to be?

Enough with acting like you know what the fuck you're railing on about.

@cbus-brownie said:

Fair, BUT, we got lucky and got another 1st rounder for T Rich. We won't be getting shit for Gilbert, at least not a #1. I'm looking at it from the standpoint, what do you have to show from 1st rd 2014.

Lmao....oh....of course you do.

How fucking stupid is this argument....talking definitively about rookies after one game of ball. Good fucking god man....

But don't let me save you from your own stupidity. Please continue about how you know the future.

@tiamat63 said:

Once again... even after the blown coverage why did he completely wiff against that defender?

He wiffed all game and preseason long.

So fucking Cleveland of us.

Ryan Shazier looks like the second coming of Ray Lewis, Cooks will probably win offensive rookie of the year, Watkins is going to start blossoming in Buffalo if they get solid QB play, Mathews is already a beast at RT, Mack is going to be the next Demarcus Ware, Lewan is already a starter and Justin Great Gobs of Goose shit Gilbert is going to take 2-3 years.

It just never fucking ends

@hoorta said:

LOL, that's not even close. Our old pal Trent Richardson, taken @ #3 overall (and don't forget we even gave up picks to take the bum) has the potential to be rated in the top 10 NFL draft busts in history. He's on the Brian Boswoth fast track to oblivion. Box score on T-Rich Sunday? 6 carries, 20 yards (3.3 ypc), 3 receptions 30 yards. Outright highway robbery to get a first round pick for T-Stiff. Gilbert @ #8 won't even be on the radar- even if he winds up as bad as McFadden.

To complete the daily double that year, we took Brandon Wee-Done. I've seen enough of Johnny Football to be pretty confident he won't stink 1\2 as bad as that clunker.

@walterwhite said:

Wow, now that I see that, you really make yourself look like an ass. Both gunners were uncovered. Not just Gilbert's. That right there is on the coaches. Gilbert was just the unfortunate soul that was placed to the boundary on that play.

Anyone in the NFL save for maybe Deion in his prime would have been burned on that pass. Get over it.