@texasag1969 said:

when I went to Detroit parking around the stadium was 50 bucks

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fanc.hh-pub.com%2FBrownEbook%2FGreen%2520Bay%2520Packers%2520Income%2520Statement.xls&ei=SoocVN7SMYqHyATd9oGYBQ&usg=AFQjCNEPa1OiyX0e69OxMMMy74whdltf0w

Shows that Home Ticket sale are a reasonably minor part of their income (<15%). Same should be more or less true of every franchise.

Bottom line: What happens to Browns ticket prices will reflect what return Jimmy wants on his investment.

As for impact of Cleveland's economic status... minor consideration at best. Browns are a regional franchise and things like the shale gas revolution are factors as well. That plus a revived auto industry ought to be enough to crank a service economy's engine...

Green Bay Packers

Statements of Income

For Years Ended March 31, 2008 through 2009

OPERATING INCOME 2009

Ticket & Media Income

Home games (net)................................... $31,097,266

Road games.... ........................................... 16,175,953

Television and radio.................................... 94,484,631

TOTAL TICKET AND MEDIA INCOME... $141,757,850

Other Operating Income

Private box income................... ...................... $12,827,613

NFL Properties income (Other NFL Revenue) $36,458,755

Expansion\revenue sharing income

Marketing\Pro Shop (net) ................................. 43,717,750

Atrium Revenue (Added 2004)

Other - Local Media, Concessions and parking (net) 13,167,973

TOTAL OTHER OPERATING INCOME ....... $106,172,091

TOTAL OPERATING INCOME...................... $247,929,941

@texasag1969 said:

And how much does Detroit charge on average? I would look there to see where prices might go in Cleveland.

Kvoethe-could you post your source?

The articles main focus is the % increase since 2010 for all teams, Seattle having largest percent increase, and then shows current ticket averages.

Detroit avg 150

@adoug319 said:

Polymers.

Plus if the team is winning people will pay whatever to see them. The owner will most assuredly use that.

Kvoethe-could you post your source?

@adoug319 said:

What major industry does cleveland have that is producing masses of rich folks?

Seattle has the technology industry, so they can get away with 300 per ticket on avg.

It's not producing tons of "rich" people but there's plenty of money being thrown around there

@kvoethe said:

The Browns ever start winning- bet the ranch ticket prices will go up substantially My season tickets would cost about triple anywhere else.

@adoug319 said:

Agreed. Plus there's not enough people with that kind of money in Cleveland. It's best fans are the hard working blue collar people

Sure there are- just wait and see.

The NFLwon't care. Joe Sixpack long ago got the short end of the stick from the NFL. One look at the concession stand prices will tell you all you need to know. Wonder why people Tailgate, and have to stagger to their seats? First Energy beer price- $9.50. per beer. Twelve pack of Busch= same price. Some low budget fans may not be the smartest, but that equation doesn't entail advanced calculus to figure out.

It's all about TV revenue, and sponsorship $$$$. When Annhauser-Busch told the NFL- we don't like the way you're handing the Peterson child abuse thing- and we might pull the megamillon exclusive right deal- the NFL asked them how high would you like us to jump?

@cbus-brownie said:

Lol, you're being naive. Can tell you weren't a business major. If we see the Browns making a playoff run, you'll see he avg ticket price go up substantially. Above post didnt mention wheher those were avg from the organization or just in General. it's not necessarily the owner manipulating, the secondary market is where the big mark ups come from.

What major industry does cleveland have that is producing masses of rich folks?

Seattle has the technology industry, so they can get away with 300 per ticket on avg.

@adoug319 said:

Agreed. Plus there's not enough people with that kind of money in Cleveland. It's best fans are the hard working blue collar people

Lol, you're being naive. Can tell you weren't a business major. If we see the Browns making a playoff run, you'll see he avg ticket price go up substantially. Above post didnt mention wheher those were avg from the organization or just in General. it's not necessarily the owner manipulating, the secondary market is where the big mark ups come from.

@sir-barksalot said:

IMO even if we become winners per say I dont think it will really effect our ticket prices, Being that our owners main source of income is not the NFL team in which he owns. I dont think we will see him try to gouge the fans. At least not in Cleveland. Blue collar pride seems to be a theme for him so I dont think we will ever see him charge white collar pricing

Agreed. Plus there's not enough people with that kind of money in Cleveland. It's best fans are the hard working blue collar people