gosling and coke pleez.

keep bring 'em until my heads on the bar.

NOT!!

@tiamat63 said:

You avoided their adjusted yards allowed against the run.

I did not avoid anything...

My post was actually supporting your statement with the fact that the Bills D has improved after converting to the 4-3 this year.

You're welcome...

@downsouthkc said:

good gives us a chance to amp the offense up to 40 pts a game, since the D does not look like they are going to stop anyone from scoring 30 a game.

@hoorta said:

Kirksey for sure will get fined. I'll put the over\under at $20k. Locker was well into the endzone when he got drilled.

Colts won the SB with the last ranked defense.

I'll take the under... barely.

Would that be the Peyton Manning Colts?

Zombo

--especially the calls for Manziel

@tiamat63 said:

Japanese actually, but the point was bad grammar and translation, not origin.

@jrb12711 said:

Kirksey for sure will get fined. I'll put the over\under at $20k. Locker was well into the endzone when he got drilled.

@suomi said:

I hear you. But stats don't win games - plays win games. The Browns made the plays when they needed to = win.

I don't care if the Browns defense is ranked in the bottom 5 all year, as long as they win.

Colts won the SB with the last ranked defense.

@brownsfanatic said:

please fire pettine, if manziel was playing we wouldn't have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole

Ah, still some fanboys around- it's officially Johnny backup for the rest of the year- assuming Hoyer doesn't get hurt.

@tiamat63 said:

For me I see a real issue with what Pettine and O'neil want with their base defense compared to what personnel this team currently has.

To expand on that further, I see a few glaring issues with the blitz calls on 3rd down and how ineffective they have seemed to be the last couple games.

Yeah- but that one corner blitz worked when it had to.

@topdawg31 said:

I do, Tenn is not a good team, we will get destroyed against good teams

Luckily we don't play any for the next 4 weeks.

@tour2ma said:

In 2013 the Bills' D was good (10th YPG, 20th PPG... both slightly better than us), but they went to a 4-3 this year and seem to be even better (8th and 6th so far).

Their rush defense, however, was pretty terrible near the entire year. Which is of great concern that they lost their DC, had a minor scheme switch and appear to be having greater success.

Even of further concern was their allowed YPG against the run even when you factor in yards lost to sacks.

@tiamat63 said:

Did he? Because Buffalo was pretty terrible against the run almost all year.

In 2013 the Bills' D was good (10th YPG, 20th PPG... both slightly better than us), but they went to a 4-3 this year and seem to be even better (8th and 6th so far).

@bbedward said:

Well, the good coordinators adjust their scheme for the personnel they have. Pettine did really well in buffalo with their personnel.

Did he? Because Buffalo was pretty terrible against the run almost all year.

@brownsfanatic said:

please fire pettine, if manziel was playing we wouldn't have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole

Manziel is too important to play. He's now in charge of team morale. Only thing that can explain his joking around and laughing right after we went down 28-3.

@browntown said:

Pettine almost gave the game away. Going for it twice on fourth down, we would have been tied going into our last drive. And I know hndsight is 20/20, but you don't take points off the board in the middle of the 3rd quarter. I enjoyed ths win, but this coaching staff makes me think I won't enjoy many more.

Torn on this... I was at the time and I still am.

On one hand Pettine was forgoing 6 points, but on the other he was challenging his team.

The O to convert the 4ths;

the D to stop TN after the O failed.

And in the end they, plus the ST, bailed him out.

@bbedward said:

It was certainly a bit dirty IMO. I only say that because of the way he cracked out his forearm as he was falling down.

It was full dirty because the forearm happened a full running stride into the endzone.

@brownsfanatic said:

Fuck off and find a new home troll

@tiamat63 said:

Well, the good coordinators adjust their scheme for the personnel they have. Pettine did really well in buffalo with their personnel.

@browntown said:

Pettine almost gave the game away. Going for it twice on fourth down, we would have been tied going into our last drive. And I know hndsight is 20/20, but you don't take points off the board in the middle of the 3rd quarter. I enjoyed ths win, but this coaching staff makes me think I won't enjoy many more.

I agree. We were down 18 in the third quarter and needed three scores. I don't care what Pettine thought, the right move was to kick a field goal - at least on the first drive, and given success, probably also on the second one, leaving us down 12 with more than a quarter left to okay.

I get little joy out of a victory like today. Yes, better than losing and being 1-3, but the team played poorly and made mistakes across the board. The defense is horrendous and should have been fixed during the break. I know we complain about the D-line and CB's but the problem is at LB where only Kruger is playing well,

To expand on that further, I see a few glaring issues with the blitz calls on 3rd down and how ineffective they have seemed to be the last couple games.

@jrb12711 said:

It was certainly a bit dirty IMO. I only say that because of the way he cracked out his forearm as he was falling down.

@j0hnnybg00d said:

Everytime a Manziel fanboy talks shit about putting Manziel in the game, Hoyer takes a big shitin their mouths.

Manziel's the motivational cheerleader for Hoyer. Works for me

@darkside5 said:

I agree, but the mainstream media is already calling it cheap and "as dirty as they come". Really?

@brownsfanatic said:

Seriously?

The Offense didn't give up 28 points in the 1st Half, but they did score the 29 that gave us the win.

Manziel is fine where he's at right now - learning how to play in the NFL, there is no rush.

@brownsfanatic said:

please fire pettine, if manziel was playing we wouldn't have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole

@tour2ma said:

We had them at 3rd & 22, and darn near gave it to them.

If not for those penalties it may well have been the nail.