@ballpeen said:

The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.

Is there a team in the NFL for which there is not a Defensive blueprint? They all have at least one loss, so there must be.

@bbedward said:

We've been in situations this year where there was no chance of us running the ball, so teams only had to worry about the pass. And Hoyer beat them.

Man, it just seems like we reversed the entire vibe from last week fans cheering, holding Hoya signs - to cheering injury material for next week.

Disappointing losses tend to dent enthusiasm, but point taken.

On the come backs... part of the credit Shanny was getting for them was that we did not completely abandon the run despite some large deficits.

And that meant the PAP plays remained effective... etc...

@clevfan4life said:

Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either.

Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.

Watkins was not there at 6...

Do really think the only difference between Mingo and Miller is how they are used?

@clevfan4life said:

well the whole point of the 3-4 is to have your OLB'ers standing most of the time which is supposed to help them run defend better. It's not our OLB'ers that are the problem, so I don't see what switching to a 4-3 is going to do for us on run D. Hell it might make it even worse if that's possible.

We have two, stand-up, 3-4 LBs that were pretty good, 4-3 DE's, Kruger and Sheard. Put them outside of our two best interior linemen available and you have a pretty good, 3-down D-line. Back that with Dansby flanked by Kirksey and Robertson and you have a pretty good set of 3-down, 4-3 LBs.

Then you have Mingo for situational pass rushing as a DE and can do a little zone blitzing with him as well.

Is the 4-3 a better way to go? Dunno now that the official D is playing better, but a couple weeks ago it sure looked to me like it was.

@clevfan4life said:

my whole point is why define your defense as 3-4, 4-3 or whatever? like i've been saying since pettine took over, why put players in positions that they've never played before? just let the freakin dogs loose and let them play.

sheard and mingo should be wreaking havoc on QBs, and they're in coverage?

GTFO.

@ballpeen said:

We've been in situations this year where there was no chance of us running the ball, so teams only had to worry about the pass. And Hoyer beat them.

Man, it just seems like we reversed the entire vibe from last week fans cheering, holding Hoya signs - to cheering injury material for next week.

@ballpeen said:

That is exactly who he reminded me of.

At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.

@miktoxic said:

throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.

'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.

taylor and rubin bums?

lol.

@clevfan4life said:

throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.

'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.

taylor and rubin bums?

lol.

@mld-woody said:

Another useless post from the peckerhead....

@walterwhite said:

I simply call it as I see it.

If you can't see that Brian Hoyer was dogshit today, along with the coaching and playing calling, you're either blind or mentally Retarded.

Simply being the operative word...

And with the "Retard card" having been played... that's a wrap for the nite.

Will the sun come up tomorrow?

@texasag1969 said:

I already watched it.

He was NERVOUS. Hoyer overthrew, underthrew, threw it behind and through it to hard,

I'm guessing he was nervous without MACK at center. The O-line was a SIEVE,

They need to sign a center and let the reat of the line go back to what they were intended to do

Today he was under 40%. I'll have to watch the replay to see what the hell is going on there. Was the loss of Mack that big a factor? Right now I just don't know.

Now that those idiots are checked into reality, the Browns will win the next 2 games for sure

When you have a rookie coach, NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, pro players think and read what the ESPN's and Fox's talk about

Now that Petine was proved correct, maybe these idiot's will listen

I damn near got sick when I read all the predictions for a "blowout" win.

The Team AND Fans needed a wake up call & dose of reality. That's what took place today.

Jacksonville literally kicked our asses in all phases of the game. All we can do is learn from it & get ready for the next SINGLE game.

Say what you will, but the phrase "..on any given Sunday" does have merit.

Mike

@tour2ma said:

I simply call it as I see it.

If you can't see that Brian Hoyer was dogshit today, along with the coaching and playing calling, you're either blind or mentally Retarded.

4th time ive seen the browns play in Florida. Never once seen them win.

Oh well! On to next week.

@mld-woody said:

Your observations are based off of one game or one play.

Good post...

It's why they are not really observations...

... more like reactions...

... or better yet, reflexes.

@walterwhite said:

fuck the injury worries, we've gotten this far without an injury. Let Gilbert return punts

We got pushed around by an 0-6 Jacksonville team and our coaching staff and QB looked totally lost.

You have to win games like this if you're going to be a good team and truly show improvement.

We started much better than we have in recent years. That doesn't make us the Broncos. That doesn't mean we should win 12+ games. It means we are improving. I don't expect us to make that jump in one year. I am happy with the progress and I think we are moving in the right direction. Yes, this sucked. Yes, we should have won. But no, we shouldn't now bitch about our coach, QB, etc etc etc. Too many people on here do that. Too many of you overreact and bitch at every little thing. It gets old.

So let's regroup, and let's win our next game. Let's not act like the sky is falling, let's not bitch about everyone... shit.

@mld-woody said:

It's been 15 years of bad games, dumbass